#2
1. Mark pilot holes, drill.
2. Attach to headstock with provided screws.

Why in the hell would you want to do that? Its going to negatively affect your tone and sustain and leave a pair of ugly holes when you get smart and take it off. Just keep allen keys in your gig bag, you don't need them in the middle of a song.
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#3
Drill holes for the screws that are slightly smaller in diameter than the screws themselves. Then screw them in.
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#4
You oughta just screw it into the backside of the headstock with the provided screws, shouldn't even need a drill if the screws are tapered.

Edit: below, double-sided tape, obvious and brilliant.
Last edited by CorvetteRick at Jan 25, 2012,
#5
You could also just use some industrial strength double sided tape.
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#6
Hrmm, definitely starting to rethink this purchase. Oh well, at least i got a new set of allen keys cos i always lose mine
#7
Wha..... how hard is it to screw in two screws? Sorry to be harsh but it's extremely easy.
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#9
Quote by GunsNSnakepits
Wha..... how hard is it to screw in two screws? Sorry to be harsh but it's extremely easy.

I think he just doesn;t want to modify the guitar.

double sided tape is still an option
#10
Ah. Well a good strong tape should work.
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#11
8 bucks for 2 allen keys... did your Home Depot close? lol
I wouldn't drill into my neck just for that. Use tape if you really want it on there. Otherwise just keep them in your bag.

-Tony
#12
Quote by cds+stereo=life
1. Mark pilot holes, drill.
2. Attach to headstock with provided screws.

Why in the hell would you want to do that? Its going to negatively affect your tone and sustain and leave a pair of ugly holes when you get smart and take it off. Just keep allen keys in your gig bag, you don't need them in the middle of a song.



TGP called for you.

And in that same vein, that holder would add weight, theoretically increasing sustain.
#13
Quote by CodeMonk
TGP called for you.

And in that same vein, that holder would add weight, theoretically increasing sustain.

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Quote by CorvetteRick
You oughta just screw it into the backside of the headstock with the provided screws, shouldn't even need a drill if the screws are tapered.

Edit: below, double-sided tape, obvious and brilliant.


Nothing you do mentioned in this thread so far will affect sustain enough to hear a difference. Unless you drive the screws without drilling pilot holes.

That will likely split the wood. You get much less sustain with an unintentional 2-piece headstoc
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#17
why do you need that on your headstock?
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#19
BTW, if you take the time to stretch your strings right every string change, then there's less of a need for this. Shouldn't even have to fine tune it, much less rough tune it between string changes.

Just a good idea to keep a phillips screwdriver handy to adjust the claw for temperature changes.
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#21
Quote by CodeMonk
TGP called for you.

And in that same vein, that holder would add weight, theoretically increasing sustain.


If only it were that easy. If all you had to do was screw on some weights to get sustain everyone would do it.

From my experience sustain mainly comes from the body and neck. Brighter sounding woods don't absorb the string energy as much and typically sustain longer. The body vibrates with the string rather than muting it. Warmer woods have a arguably better tone but the softer body "muddles" the vibrations and the sustain suffers a bit.

I'd argue that extra "stuff" on the guitar (pickholders, stickers, thicker finishes), especially on the body, dull the tone and kill sustain. But on the headstock... I'd doubt you'd notice a difference.

-Tony
#22
Quote by X-plorer88
If only it were that easy. If all you had to do was screw on some weights to get sustain everyone would do it.

From my experience sustain mainly comes from the body and neck. Brighter sounding woods don't absorb the string energy as much and typically sustain longer. The body vibrates with the string rather than muting it. Warmer woods have a arguably better tone but the softer body "muddles" the vibrations and the sustain suffers a bit.

I'd argue that extra "stuff" on the guitar (pickholders, stickers, thicker finishes), especially on the body, dull the tone and kill sustain. But on the headstock... I'd doubt you'd notice a difference.

-Tony


false, it comes from weight.
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#23
And denser woods are typically brighter sounding. You're not wrong, but I disagree that you can just bolt on a dumbbell and get better tone dude.

-Tony
#24
I thought the TGP comment would have been a red flag that I was being sarcastic.

I have 3 Mahogany body guitars.
1. Epiphone Les Paul
2. Gibson Explorer
3. Ibanez S570DXQM

Out of the 3, the LP is the heaviest.
It also has the best sustain.
It was also the least expensive.


As to the product in question...

I think its cool.
I have 5 allen wrench kits.
All missing one wrench.
Guess which one they are all missing...

They're like guitar picks.
Last edited by CodeMonk at Jan 25, 2012,
#25
What the hell is TGP? And if weight was the only thing that mattered in sustain then Santana would be playing a stone guitar.

I suppose it was a bit extreme, though. It probably won't make a huge difference in sustain. However, attaching allen keys to your head stock serves no earthly purpose. If your guitar falls out of tune that easily you need to target the cause of the problem, not the symptom. Unstretched strings, shitty vibrato piece, locking nut pieces that don't lock effectively, etc.
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#27
I'm ordering my next guitar with no tuners. All those screw holes attaching the tuning machines are just KILLING my tone. Also, I'm hoping they can just use a tension bridge to avoid any wood loss due to mounting the tune o' matic posts.
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Quote by jpatan
I'm ordering my next guitar with no tuners. All those screw holes attaching the tuning machines are just KILLING my tone. Also, I'm hoping they can just use a tension bridge to avoid any wood loss due to mounting the tune o' matic posts.

touche.

Still no reason to do this.
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