#1
I've been playing on combo amps for my entire time playing guitar, and I finally want to get a half stack, so I'm still trying to pick up some knowledge on half stacks. Here's my situation: A few months ago, an older guy I worked with was looking to get rid of his Fender cabinet, just to clear up room in his house. It's really old, and he didn't even know if it worked anymore, so he was willing to give it to me for free. I haven't gotten the chance to try it out yet, but I figured that since I want to get a half stack, I am going to only buy the head first, and see if the cab still works. I'm not really relying on the cab to work, but if it did, it would be really nice, and would save me a lot of money. If not, whatever, I'll just buy a matching cab. The only thing I'm worried about is that the head I choose to purchase might not sound good coming out of the Fender cab, even if it does work. I don't exactly know what head I want yet, but I'm thinking about either a Mesa Mark IV, a Mesa Roadster or something that sounds similar to those. I'm looking for hard rock/heavy metal type sound. I'm not sure what the exact model of the Fender cabinet is, but the guy who gave it to me said it goes extremely loud, so I'm guessing there's enough wattage in it for super high volumes (which I probably won't even need anyway). But I was just wondering how much the cabinet effects the tone. Obviously most of the tone is coming from the head, but about how much does the cabinet affect the tone? Do you think a Mesa head would mix well with a Fender cab? I know that Fender isn't exactly known for their distorted tones, so that's why I'm a little worried.


Short question: How much do cabinets effect the tone coming from a head?
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#2
It affects it a lot, after all the speakers are what is physically producing the sound. Without the model of Fender it's difficult to say, but I do know that Mesa and Orange both make some top quality cabinets, but if you ain't got that cash a Marshall 1936 or 1960 should do the job.
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#3
Harley benton g212v from thomann is an excellent cab for the money. has 2 v30's which are perfect for hardrock. got one myself and it's built very well.
Edit: you need an 412v offcourse.
#4
Hmm, well I'm trying not to spend more than $2000. I am definitely going used for the head. I found a used roadster on E-Bay for $1500 with no shipping cost, and a used Mark VI for $1350 (after shipping), so if I don't like the Fender, I will probably buy a cab between $300-$500. Any other suggestions on cabs around that price range?
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Boss DD-6
Wylde Signature Cry Baby
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#5
cab matters enough that it can completely ruin the sound of a good amp.
#6
I play my mark IV through a 212 recto cab, and I used a friend's cab (type unknown) once, and it sounded COMPLETELY different. It was way too dark for my taste.

Do you know what kind of speakers are in the cab? Celestion vintage 30's are what come standard in recto cabs.
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#7
Without speakers you have no sound, therefore speakers are the most important component of your tone.
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#8
It makes a a big difference. I used my head on an engl 4x12 last night instead of my normal blackheart 4x12. I had EQ my amp completely different.
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#10
A decent cab for the money is a Line 6 Spider VALVE not regular spider. It comes with v30's
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#11
should look into avatar also. Can get a nice 212 cab brand new, and pretty reasonably priced.
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A decent cab for the money is a Line 6 Spider VALVE not regular spider. It comes with v30's


if your just looking at speakers ya, but the construction quality on those are pretty bad
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#13
The dimensions and material of the cab also play a big role in the tone. I have a Carvin Legacy cab w/v30s, and a friend of mine has a Mesa Oversize Recto cab, also with v30s. Exact same speakers, but when I put my amp through the Mesa cab, I had to EQ it different from the Carvin. I almost couldn't dial the bass out enough on the Mesa cab. I'm not sure what kind of material the two cabs are made of. But those are a couple more factors to consider.
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cab matters enough that it can completely ruin the sound of a good amp.


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#15
I got a mesa rectifier 2x12 cabinet for 500 with shipping at guitar center.

Do you want a 4x12



or a 2x12?
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#16
If you're in the US, you should be able to find a mark iv for around 1100. Unless it's in flawless condition 1350 is too much.
#17
the cabinet is the last part of your signal chain and plays a major role in tone. i don't know what the MOST important part of a rig is, but speaker cabs play a big part and a worth a little attention.

you wanna get knowledgeable about cabs and speakers?

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/gear_maintenance/cabinets_for_guitars.html

http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/Phil+Starr/contributions/columns/

this guy is knowledgeable, he'll put you on the map about what matters.

as for cabs, i like going local cuz i can always find killer deals (people don't generally know what they have). if you know what kinda cab and speaker you want, then you can always go to avatar and order what you want (they are very similar quality to top brands imo)
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