#1
hey GG&A i have a choice between a tube screamer and a ds-1

i don't know the difference between the two except ones
a distortion and the other is tube pedal .

what would you suggest to get and whats the difference in them ?
#2
what else do you have for gear and what kind of sound are you going for?
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#3
DS-1 is generally hated on UG, but I love mine. The Tubescreamer doesn't have as much treble or distortion/gain, and the DS-1 can get almost-metal tones. I prefer it with the distortion down for a warm overdrive akin to Keith Richards.
#4
Well a tube screamer will overdrive your tone, giving you some dirt and a 'boost'. It can be used on a clean channel or an already distorted tone.
A distortion will just distort your clean channel, and won't be used on an already distorted tone. Its basically your distorted channel in a box.

I wouldn't advise getting a DS-1; as there are far better distortion pedals out there.
#5
I love my tubesreamer I mostly use it as a booster pedal to add some crazy sustain And crunch to my tone also if your into classic rock you will like this. I have the ts 9 dx model for an extra 20 bucks you can go from classic rock to metal only by turning a nob it's pretty sweet
#6
Listen to Smells Like Teen Spirit - the chorus is being played through a DS-1. Then listen to Texas Flood (Stevie Ray Vaughn) Tubescreamer (and they don't contain tubes, the ideal is that they drive tubes in an all valve amp harder).
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#7
Generally speaking if the question is "DS1 or something else?" The answer is something else.
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#8
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Generally speaking if the question is "DS1 or something else?" The answer is something else.


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#9
Tubescreamers are somewhat ubiquitous, too.


Although for a pretty good reason. I've had four of them over the years.
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#10
I have both, however my DS-1 was modded when I got it (Keeley Ultimate mod). One is a distortion (DS-1) and one is an overdrive. IMHO you want both, but I'd strongly recommend you get a better distortion. Choice between DS-1 and an unnamed overdrive? Can you tell us more about the OD? If it's like mine, an Ibanez TS-9 then hands down the OD. Or if you can afford a TS-9, then maybe compare it to an equivalent distortion like the JD-9 (or many others).
#11
Modded DS1's can be a fine pedal. They are built like a brick shithouse and the basic circuit is ok, it just has some really poor choices in values.
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#14
I own a Ds1 and have been playing it through a marshall mg250dfx. Not really what I (or most people) want to hear. But I am looking forward to playing it through the new amp that I plan on getting very soon. The Ds1 does exactly what it says, distortion in its simplest form. Not really my cup of tea, but not a bad pedal. You can get the heavies out of it if you tweak it right. But I also plan on getting a tube screamer and a fuzz. But just remember, you get what you pay for, and try both out.
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#16
My GP-8 has a DS-1 and an SD-1 built into it. I normally use it as a boost in front of a nice tube amp but on the rare occasions I want to add some colour from a "pedal" I will use the SD-1. The DS-1 never gets used. I've had that unit for over 20 years and the DS-1 is about the only effect in it that never gets switched on. They are rubbish.
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#18
The Roland GP-8 isn't a modeller. It's 8 Boss pedals in one box with MIDI control. It is the grandaddy of MFX units. It's a DS-1 in there man, not a digital model of one - the real thing (analog). It just happens to share a PCB with other pedals.
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#19
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Actual ones have nothing to do with modelling of them.

'Modeling of them' has nothing to do with the GP-8.
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#20
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Listen to Smells Like Teen Spirit - the chorus is being played through a DS-1. Then listen to Texas Flood (Stevie Ray Vaughn) Tubescreamer (and they don't contain tubes, the ideal is that they drive tubes in an all valve amp harder).


Kind of an oversimplification, Cobain's DS1 was not built to the same specs as the current DS1 models... and you really cannot get the chorus sound out of a stock DS-1...
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#21
Plus of course - it's a studio recording. As if there's no post production going on.
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#22
As if the DS-1 doesn't have a tone knob, and your amp doesn't have EQ knobs.

Find an older, used DS-1. It doesn't have to be one of the MIJs, but stray away from the newer, cheaper models.
#23
there's probably some perfectly acceptable and logical reason for this, but why do you only have the choice of a ds1 or a tubescreamer?
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