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Specifically in his Where The Light Is concert the songs 'Gravity' and 'Slow Dancing In A Burning Room' .

Now I know of the clone of what ever he is using is called the Zen Drive, but I don't know what the original pedal that he is using is called.

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Any ideas?..
#3
teh kl0n with teh pony.
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#4
The zen drive isnt the pedal for his solos, its a pedal that can mimic the sound of his dumble style two-rock amp. Tubescreamer would be the pedal he probably uses the most on those solos. I know he's used an original marshall bluesbreaker as well, not the 2nd version that's out now.
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The zen drive isnt the pedal for his solos, its a pedal that can mimic the sound of his dumble style two-rock amp. Tubescreamer would be the pedal he probably uses the most on those solos. I know he's used an original marshall bluesbreaker as well, not the 2nd version that's out now.


So would recommend getting the Zen Drive and TS10 or something. I'm gonna be running this through a Hot Rod Deluxe.
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Hate to burst your bubble but I don't think he's using any pedals at all in those sounds you're referring to. Sounds like just a Dumble.

A Dumble-sounding pedal might get you near those sounds.
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Hate to burst your bubble but I don't think he's using any pedals at all in those sounds you're referring to. Sounds like just a Dumble.

A Dumble-sounding pedal might get you near those sounds.


Uh, he does turn something on I know for sure in the Slow Dancing In A Burning Room solo in that video because he looks down at the pedal board before the switch to the shot of the drummer.

At 4:27 or 4:28 in the second link. Sorry.
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Yeah, probably switching channels.


I don't know. I'd have to look for at his setup again, but if that is just his Dumble Overdrive... That thing was worth every penny.
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Yeah, probably switching channels.


He has a MIDI setup so he can use a bunch of pedals at the press of a button. I'd imagine he has several different patches with several different effects tied into them.

It's not hard to imagine him switching to the dirty channel of the Dumble with a Tubescreamer and Way Huge Aquapuss on it as well.
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#12
I thought his Dumble Steel String Singer was single-channel? If so, then problably ts-10, klon, keeley mod blues driver, keeley katana or marshall bluesbreaker.
#13
Ah, yes, I do recall the SSS as used by SRV being desired to stay as clean as possible...

So in that case I can see JM using a bag of pedals to get his dirt.

Doesn't he usually run the SSS in stereo/AB it with his Two-Rock sig, though? I generally see him running those two with 4 2x12 speaker cabs.
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The Premier Guitar video on Youtube shows the SSS, his Two Rock signature, and a Bandmaster.
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Yeah, I was already searching the video to post it here. His tech says they're on all the time.
#16
His two rock sig is also a single channel without an overdrive channel.

He had a dumble ods but he gets his overdrive sound from his pedals. Tubescreamer, Marshall blues breaker, etc were his favorites.
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Yeah, I was already searching the video to post it here. His tech says they're on all the time.

Individual pedals are on all the time. But the midi controller at john's feet control which pedals the signal goes through. Some are "on", but not all are processin the input signal at a time.
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Did I make a disparaging remark about John Mayer in here yet?
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Individual pedals are on all the time. But the midi controller at john's feet control which pedals the signal goes through. Some are "on", but not all are processin the input signal at a time.


I know, I meant the amps are on all the time. The Premier Guitar Rig Rundown videos make me drool, there is so much nice gear in their videos. Still, the John Mayer one is kinda disappointing, his tech isn't very specific about everything, especially compared to Keith Urban's tech, or Brad Paisley's.
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There's gotta be a reason why he has a Two Rock, a Dumble SSS, and a Dumble OD Special.
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There's gotta be a reason why he has a Two Rock, a Dumble SSS, and a Dumble OD Special.


Cheddah.
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Cheddah.

But, I mean he uses them all when he's performing.
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There's gotta be a reason why he has a Two Rock, a Dumble SSS, and a Dumble OD Special.

yea, because he's an idiot.
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There's gotta be a reason why he has a Two Rock, a Dumble SSS, and a Dumble OD Special.


Because he... likes the sound?

But he doesn't use the ODS live, he probably has it for investment purposes.
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Its because he can...

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Anyway, I'm getting off topic. So his tone obviously is mainly comprised from his amps because they have such a clean shimmering tone, and when he uses his TS10 and Keeley Modded BD2 he gets that tone in those solos?.. Is that what it balls down to?.. Because I'm hearing that its all his amps and then I'm hearing people listing a rack of different pedals so.. I know what Dumble amps sound like and I think he is using different pedals as well for those solos.
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He's using a pedal in those videos. It doesn't sound like an overdriven Dumble. It sounds like a Dumble with a tubescreamer in front of it.

I like John Mayer's clean tone, but his dirty sound is nothing special imo.
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Quote by al112987
He's using a pedal in those videos. It doesn't sound like an overdriven Dumble. It sounds like a Dumble with a tubescreamer in front of it.

I like John Mayer's clean tone, but his dirty sound is nothing special imo.


Nicely put. Lol, cause thats really all I needed to know. Thank you.
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Anything relatively Dumbley, which is just Fendery with more more (if you know what I mean) will get you in the ballpark. You could look at a Fuchs ODS or a Ceriatone Overtone Special if you've got a reasonable amount of money to spend. If your budget is more on the shoestring side of things, then a Fender Hot Rod or Blues Deluxe or a Twin will sound good enough clean that you won't need to worry too much about it.

John Mayer tends to emulate SRV with his sound, so a Tubescreamer and the Keeley stuff mentioned above will get you there once paired with the Dumbley sounding amp.
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Yeah, probably switching channels.

Na, for the past couple years he's been using those Two Rocks which IIRC only one channel. I'm pretty sure he uses the Zen on that solo.
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Na, for the past couple years he's been using those Two Rocks which IIRC only one channel. I'm pretty sure he uses the Zen on that solo.


People are confusing me now... One person says that the Zen drive is suppose to emulate the Dumble tone, but the Two Rock is a clone of a Dumble amp and John Mayer owns two Dumble amps anyway. So what I added up was he is either using a TS10 and some other nonsense and his Two Rock or Dumble SSS OR... He's casting spells.
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#34
He's using Two Rocks and pedals, usually a Zendrive.
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#38
you're gonna need a klon and a dumble style circuit...

sooo what other questions do you have.
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#39
Ok, from what I've seen, people who own Dumbles also own a host of dumble clones. It is America, there's no such thing as moderation. So it makes sense that the Two Rock (which is a dumble clone) is in his rig next to his ODS (weather he uses it live or not). They all have their own sweet spot and all do their own thing for his tone. If you're gonna look into one of these amps, I'd recommend starting with Ceriatone. They're probably the most affordable dumble clones out there. Two Rock did just come out with something under $1k FINALLY but I'm not sure what people are saying about it yet...

The midi thing can store well over 100 presets and he (along with everyone else who can afford those) has a bank for every song with a patch for each part of every song.

If you're shooting for his sound, you need a Keeley Katana. It is a clean boost with a coil tap mild overdrive. Transparent and responsive. This is more than likely what he's using if its a mellow solo. I have been using a HRD and can get real close to his OD sounds with my TS808 with the gain set real low and using the clean channel on my amp and slight reverb. Analogue slap back helps too. Carbon Copy is nice and warm so that's my choice, but he uses the Aqua Puss.

Go for emulation not replication. He already did his sound. Do your own. Finding your own tone is such a great victory! Also, if you or any of us end up famous, when people ask how you got your tone, you don't have to say something lame like, "I was copying that guy." haha!

BTW, I have good seats to his gig at a Casino in OK on March 15. I'll see if I can get some good shots of his rig from where I'm at. Also, since there isn't a bunch of Mayer hate going on in here lol, he'll be at a jazz fest this spring and I think SxSW in Austin, Tx.
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I swear he uses one.

Only because he used to talk about it back on his gear blog or w/e it was. Maybe he took it off his board since then, but Min is right, it's a Klon.

So you need a Klon and a Dumble style circuit.

I wouldn't care if there was Mayer hate anyways. I love Mayer's tone and his playing. Especially in the Trio.
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