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#1
no really, are they really that good? are they really better than orange or marshall or peavey? do they really sound that great? i have found them to be rather complicated to use and have too many unnecessary features and I think they're overrated and overpriced.

can somebody please give me an INTELLIGENT WELL THOUGHT OUT response on why they're superior to other amp manufacturers and why there's so much hype about them including the rectifier series amps.

ex. (don't tell me they're heavy as shit and good for metal because i don't care. that's a stupid opinion that teaches me nothing about them.)
#2
Their perceived quality is a matter of taste and an objective opinion.
It depends on the tone you may be after, the features that you really require as to whether they are necessary or not and the build quality and components of the amp itself - down to the wiring used.
It's an opinion. It's subjective. And I'm right, anyway.
#3
are they that good? they are good for what they are. they are as good as other amps in their price range.

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#4
They offer you the ability to create a much more sculpted tone from the amp itself without having to look to pedals right away. The downside of that is that it can sometimes be hard to dial in a good tone.

If you don't like them, you don't and there's nothing wrong with that. I personally love them but I'm a tweaker. I also wouldn't say they're superior to Orange but I would say even their baseline models are better than most Marhsall and Peavey amps.

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i do like how they let you change tweak your tone and can be awesome once you do find the tone your lookign for

but yeah i think they are better then marshalls or pevey..not sure aobut orange...since ive never played one
#7
if you like how they sound that is about it.

they are built extremely solidly in comparison to a lot of other amps out there, their QC seems to be pretty good (at least for the last 10 years unfamiliar with quite a few models before just don't know them all), but there are a lot of older Mesas still floating around, that work and sound great.

the only thing i will down them for is the non V30 speakers in some of their cabs (very rugged cabs), and that the two channel dual rec sounds better than the three channel,
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The original Roadking seemed a little too techy for my liking - experiences with the latter models seems to be better and far more logical, although I haven't used one to it's full extent.
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#9
Mesa amps are good but it really depends on the price you're paying..

In the uk if you're paying the price for a new recto then it isnt that good..
#10
Objectively, they're extremely well built. Over specd transformers that can run with mismatched impedance and power tubes missing. Tons of features and tons of tweakability if thats what you're into. So objectively they're well made and offer lots of features.
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#11
I was quoted nearly $8k (AU) when I enquired about the Roadking nearly six years ago.
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#12
Mesas are extremely well built, if that's what you mean. As far as tone, it depends what sound you're looking for. Mesas sound like Mesas, Marshalls sound like Marshalls, Peaveys sound like Peaveys, and Oranges sound like Marshalls. If you want a huge British rock tone, a Marshall JCM will handle that better than a Mesa Rectifier. That doesn't mean the Rectifier isn't a good amp, it just has a different voice for a different job. A Mercedes Benz may not handle off-road driving as well as a Humvee. That doesn't make it a bad car, its just outside it's intended design.
#13
the G55 AMG goes anywhere a hummer goes.

if your in the Europe you best be buying a diezel or a brunetti. Don't even think about mesa.
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Some Mesa's (Mark and Rectifier series) are actually something I don't dig. Too complicated for my taste. Now, try the Royal Atlantic , huge tone, versatility (from blues, latin, classic rock to metal) and so easy to get a great tone, it can do vintage and modern. My dream amp come true, I proudly own one. Still waiting to get a nice cab to post a proper NAD with clips though.

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Like any brand, Mesa have a small number of amps in their reportiore that approach legend status and a large number of models that range from meh to ok.

But that's really no different to Marshall, Peavey, Vox, Hiwatt, etc?

So I don't know what you are basing your view on.
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#21
The brootalz = epicz

Mesa = the BROOTALZ

therefore

Mesa = the EPICZ.
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Their main amps, rectifier and mark series, are overused in my opinion.


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no really, are they really that good? are they really better than orange or marshall or peavey? do they really sound that great? i have found them to be rather complicated to use and have too many unnecessary features and I think they're overrated and overpriced.

can somebody please give me an INTELLIGENT WELL THOUGHT OUT response on why they're superior to other amp manufacturers and why there's so much hype about them including the rectifier series amps.

ex. (don't tell me they're heavy as shit and good for metal because i don't care. that's a stupid opinion that teaches me nothing about them.)


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#26
I don't like mesas really, the rectifiers I have played were unimpressive. The roadster I played was much better, but still not what I like. I have only played a mark 3 (in the mark series), and it was only about half an hour, so I didn't have time to dial it in properly. That being said, some people love them. My old guitar teacher swore by them, I mean, he had the full triple rec full stack going with his mark 4 half stack in the back. They are as good as you want them to be, they just have a good reputation for making reliable, good sounding amps, no magic or anything. It is clear you, like myself, are not impressed with them. I'll stick with my crappy made in china cheapy amp, thank you.
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are they that good? they are good for what they are. they are as good as other amps in their price range.

the end.


pretty much (at least based on US prices... at UK/European prices they're massively overpriced, in my opinion)

if you like them they're great.

that's not to say they're better than a cheaper amp if that cheaper amp is more aimed at what you want to play.
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#31
Do you want us to tell you that Mesa amps are shitty and overpriced, that anybody who likes them is wrong and doesn't know anything about tone? Are you seeking validation here?

Or are you just mad that they cost more than you can afford?

Several Mesa amps ARE good for metal. That is not a stupid opinion and should not be discounted just because you don't like metal and are a musical chauvinist. Many artists use them for metal. But they're good at other things too. Santana, Keith Richards, and Andy Timmons are just a few of the non-metal artists who play or have played Mesa amps.
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Objectively, they're extremely well built. Over specd transformers that can run with mismatched impedance and power tubes missing. Tons of features and tons of tweakability if thats what you're into. So objectively they're well made and offer lots of features.


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#36
Mesa/Boogie is mostly producing an expensive line of products. Mesa/Boogie> Cheaper Amps. Therefore, Every Expensive Amp> A Cheap Amp. But well, they are really good in their line, while I prefer ENGL, or someone else can prefer VOX or Randall. They are really about your guts, they all have high quality products.
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argh, don't tell him

randall's probably now off to patent that
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randall's probably now off to patent that


I'd imagine he's collecting massive royalties off the city of Mesa
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