#1
Picking up a Squier Classic Vibe Stratocaster later this week, now i've done some basic google searching but it really doesn't tell me a whole lot (i guess because im a beginner)

Should I not even bother getting some humbuckers installed on my strat since im a beginner? Also, I plan on ordering from amazon, if I took the guitar center would they "tune it up" for me? Tighten up the neck and everything else, I have no idea how to do it myself.

One last thing, will guitar center also install the humbuckers IF you guys recommend me to get some?
#2
No you don't need humbuckers.

Get a guitar teacher.
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#4
No need for humbuckers (they just give you a different sound, lots of guitarists don't use them), might wanna take it to a guitar store to get it set up when you order it.
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#5
A humbucker is basically two single coils (the kind you're getting in your guitar) wired so they don't hum and then packaged into one pickup. They have a "thicker" tone to them. You certainly don't need them, but like most other things you may want them as you develop a better idea of what you want to play. Guitar Center should do a set-up for you if you want, but apart from that I'd strongly recommend learning how to restring and tune your guitar on your own.

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#6
Ok, I didn't think I needed one but I wondered because of what type of music I'm intrested in if adding humbuckers would make me sound more like the bands in question
#7
I know how to string and tune the guitar I was talking more about adjusting the neck and head etc. THAT stuff I don't know how to do, but yeah I can string and tune a guitar no problem, can even do it by ear.
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I know how to string and tune the guitar I was talking more about adjusting the neck and head etc. THAT stuff I don't know how to do, but yeah I can string and tune a guitar no problem, can even do it by ear.

Wait, your just getting a guitar now. But you can restring one?
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#9
what type of music do you want to play?
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#10
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Wait, your just getting a guitar now. But you can restring one?


I've had old crappy wal-mart guitars.
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what type of music do you want to play?


My favorite genres are grunge and alternative.

Basically anything from 1990-2004.

But I like stuff from the 60s and 80s too.
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My favorite genres are grunge and alternative.

Basically anything from 1990-2004.

But I like stuff from the 60s and 80s too.

So basically the worst musical period in history.

Gotcha.
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So basically the worst musical period in history.

Gotcha.


What's worse? My musical taste or you taking the time out of your day to post in this topic? That's what I thought.
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What's worse? My musical taste or you taking the time out of your day to post in this topic? That's what I thought.

Don't feed the trolls. While a lot of 80s music is downright terrible there's some cool gems. Oh, and you can always cover hair metal ironically.
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#17
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What's worse? My musical taste or you taking the time out of your day to post in this topic? That's what I thought.

Easily the former - I was standing at a deli waiting with nothing better to do.

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Haha. I love cheesy 80's music.

Guess there's hope for you, though.
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#18
Couldn't you have posted this in the two other threads you made....??????

But no, you don't NEED humbuckers to play the bands you mentioned, although I did mention that the bands you like do use guitars with humbuckers. Since you're starting out, focus on technique.

Tone comes later, if ever
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#19
Nothing good came out of the '80s except for the Talking Heads. Just saying...

Having humbuckers has nothing to do with your level of proficiency. I've played guitar for 12 years and I use both a strat with single coils and a les paul with humbuckers. It all depends on what I feel like at the time.
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#20
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So basically the worst musical period in history.

Gotcha.

Bollocks. Grunge and the punk from that that era was some of the most fun shit to play ever. I had an absolute ball playing that stuff in the 90's. Jumping all over the place, nobody giving a crap if you got everything perfect. That era was fun as a musician, man. You could be ripped off your head and it didn't matter. Awesome period.


TS: don't worry about it. Once you've been playing for a while you'll know if you want humbuckers. If you find yourself needing a thicker tone instead of twang them shove a humbucker in the bridge. Don't worry about it just yet, hone your skills first.
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#21
GKDAIR, hope guitar transforms your life like it did for me.

Single and double pickups will deliver different tone with the humbucker typically having a thicker tone, so it all depends on what kind of tone you are after but ultimately your amp choice is more important in tone in my opinion.

You could always get a stratocaster with a humbucker and single coil combo , which is my prefered choice. Beware of lower end Squire models though, their pickips might squeal badly when volume is raised.
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#23
Shall I show you my first guitar? It was a normal SSS strat configuration when I bought it. I did most of the mods in the first year of owning it. I don't care if you think it's an ugly guitar, I love it to death and it's the most versatile guitar ever. You name it, I can pull that tone.
This was important because I was playing in a functions band (even weddings arrrrgggghh) at the beginning so I had to cover a lot of styles with one guitar. At some party functions you could really let go. When the party jumps to Paranoid you know you aren't going to have to play lame-arsed wedding music. But sometimes you are unlucky and all they want is Elvis and John Denver.



The beauty of a strat is that you can replace the whole scratchboard so you can only hurt the guitar so much. I would have had to make the scratchplate from scratch but with a real Strat you can go silly, trying different things because replacement scratch plates are a dime a dozen.

Wait a while, you'll know what you want. Get another scratchplate and over time as you see things you want, mount them to the spare board. When you finish populating it, pull the old scratchplate and bolt your new, freshly populated one in. If you don't like it, pull it off and put the old one back and you're back where you started.
Take your time. There's no rush, the strat will be fine as it is until you're ready to start experimenting.

Check what the body is routed out for. You don't have to completely remove the scratchplate to look. Just remove your strings, unscrew all the screws around the edge of the scratchplate. Now lift it carefully, there is a wire attached going between the pots and the bridge so be careful not to break it. You're just looking at how big the holes are in the body for the pickups. Most strats are now routed out for HSH but check before you do anything.
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#24
Cathbard, not a bad looking guitar once you get past the headstock. Brian May's homemade one will never win a award for looks but his tone speaks for itself.
#25
And I have to say, running two single coils at the bridge is an awesome way to do it. It took a little chisel work to make them fit but it's worth it. One of those little toggles switches them between series/split/parallel. Two single coils in series (they are RW/RP so they hum cancel) at the bridge screams. And they are angled like a pup there should be, just that there's two of them.
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Oh, and you can always cover hair metal ironically.




there's nothing ironic about how awesome hair metal is
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