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#3
I'm not sold on the vocals, and I'm kind of over the Chelsea Smile breakdown/guitar feel.
#5
Is that a British thing? I know Sharks (that band that sounds like The Clash) printed like 20 different versions of each model and sold like 20 of each.

Anyways, these were some of the worst vocals I've ever heard.
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#7
Yeah this band is meh.
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#8
Sharks is rad, who did you see them with?
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#9
Local bands. Fun show though, definitely. Sharks played loud as fuck. They were pretty good, had some solid jams. Their lead guitarist was like...straight from the '80s, though. He kinda broke their image.
#10
Wtf thought Last Witness were going to be a proper hardcore punk band considering how much all the "hardcore kids" hype their merch up but they sound more metalcore than anything...
#11
They are a metalcore band...
They are also massively hyped, but I do like the sound of the new tracks they've released, ordered the 12" from holyroar so it better all be as good!
Another track called the dissapearer has been released through a rock sound cd but it is available on the internet (i found it on a russian site)...
#14
The beatdowns annoy me, but they're a good live band made up of nice dudes.

And this song is still fun, despite the stupid metal parts and the shaky vocals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bXL9X72FXg

EDIT: I'm not sure about the new songs though. It sounds painfully like Slipknot.
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#15
They sound like the song Alligator Blood by Bring Me The Horizon.

Yet everyone bums one out over them? What...why...someone explain?
#16
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Yet everyone bums one out over them? What...why...someone explain?


Most British Hardcore fans are retarded, I could probably statistically prove this quite simple by asking them if they liked this band or Hang The Bastard more.

Though gotta say I ****ing dig that intro riff in The Void. I'm a sucker for a good groove. Rest of it is pretty stale though.
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#17
I am so sick of British hardcore scene. Most of the dudes are in it to look cool to ex-scene girls, and the girls are in it because they want to impress the dudes.

It's just a sea of Obey t shirts, Vans, snapbacks, shit clothing lines with names like Disintegrity before Honour, denim jackets with WSS patches and shaved hair with a long bit on top and stretched ears.

They all worship bands which are mainly shit and boring like Last Witness, Heights and Your Demise, whilst hating on the 14 year olds only just discovering heavy music by listening to Bring Me The Horizon despite the fact that the music is pretty much the same.

Also give them a good band like Shai Hulud and they'll laugh it off because it's not cool to like Shai Hulud.

It's all about the image, the limited edition Last Witness and BWP t shirts, not the music, which makes me sick.
#18
Yeah well Britian used to have a really strong hardcore scene. It used to be great, it becoming "cool" (i.e. assimilated by the mainstream) has made it shit. I mean I really liked While She Sleep's first EP, but compare this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLboWkrSrVI

To: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkyVFcWfiWI&feature=related

They've turned into a massively generic Metalcore band.
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#19
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Yeah well Britian used to have a really strong hardcore scene. It used to be great, it becoming "cool" (i.e. assimilated by the mainstream) has made it shit. I mean I really liked While She Sleep's first EP, but compare this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLboWkrSrVI

To: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkyVFcWfiWI&feature=related

They've turned into a massively generic Metalcore band.


I really enjoyed the first EP it had character and all the lead lines were really cool, sound was great. However now they're just generic chuggah chuggah metalcore band #7.

The first comment on the second video says it all:
"This song and the new 'architects' song are totally smashing it right now!"
People honestly have no idea what they're on about.

I might just stick to american music for the while. UK pop punk scene doesn't touch the US one, and at least the US have ETID.
#20
That and the new Cancer Bats. Both of which I picked up the other day but am yet to listen to.
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#22
Well the last album was on the HMV recommends board... which means nothing because trendy kids don't buy music.

Also thinking about it, Feed the Rhino are still pretty sweet too.
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#23
While She Sleeps have ALWAYS been "massively generic metalcore". Also, EndTheRapture, you have no right to rag on kids who like BMTH - a year ago they were all you talked about before you matured to Architects like every other person who gets into metalcore/hardcore via BMTH does. Giving kids shit for liking that is just weird coming from you - think of how you would have felt when you were literally one of them.

You always seem to complain about UK bands being boring/getting worse with age/being ruined by their fans, but you only ever seem to talk about big bands on major labels who are releasing their third album or whatever. You should try getting into smaller bands that are doing more relevant things and haven't had their output dumbed down by record labels, producers and journalists. Try checking out the bands on the following labels (I know this contradicts what I just said, but they are different kinds of label altogether): Dog Knights Productions, Tangled Talk Records, Brain Ache Records & Holy Roar Records.

In particular, these bands might go some way to restoring your faith in UK hardcore/punk/pop punk etc (without getting too obscure or crusty - you might find your way to that eventually I suppose):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9TUJv9_-cc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEma-k1YlBo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7TbNyThXmg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ns8cq73VxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K8AyLFbG0U
http://hindsights.bandcamp.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN_azkPSO20

EDIT: I have no idea how the picture in the first post hasn't been photoshopped yet.

EDITEDIT: I did really enjoy the part where you ripped on a certain clothing company from up here though (I'm pretty sure that's what you were doing anyway).
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#24
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While She Sleeps have ALWAYS been "massively generic metalcore".


True, to an extent, but at least it was far more interesting to listen to than the new stuff.


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In particular, these bands might go some way to restoring your faith in UK hardcore/punk/pop punk etc (without getting too obscure or crusty - you might find your way to that eventually I suppose):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9TUJv9_-cc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEma-k1YlBo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7TbNyThXmg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ns8cq73VxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K8AyLFbG0U
http://hindsights.bandcamp.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN_azkPSO20


First song: Not a massive fan to be honest. Has an old school Screamo vibe at some points which is cool, but doesn't really do much for me.

Second Song: Didn't grab me to start with, but after a while I started to dig it. Kinda Convergy which is always a good thing. The dissonant melodic parts are the high light for me.

Third Song: Pretty cool, didn't really hook me in though.

Fourth Song: Intro really hooked me. This is actually really damn good. I'll have to look into these guys more.

Fifth Song: Did not like this at all to start with, the guitar melody sounded far too indie to me. And due to pretty much all the indie fans I knew when the genre first gained popularity where the biggest arseholes ever I have a kneejerk against that kinda thing. Pretty solid sounding skate punk though, kinda like a slower, less fun Bouncing Souls, again it's only okay.

Sixth Song: This band sounds like a very solid version of really boring music, do not want.

Seventh Song: Like the singers voice, pretty cool, nice melodies. Another one I dig.

I find a lot of this just "okay". I find too much of it to be "Plaidshirt" hardcore. As in I can just imagine the show being full of kids with stupid haircuts wearing plaid shirts only button up on the top button. Maybe this just isn't the kind of Hardcore for me.
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#25
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While She Sleeps have ALWAYS been "massively generic metalcore". Also, EndTheRapture, you have no right to rag on kids who like BMTH - a year ago they were all you talked about before you matured to Architects like every other person who gets into metalcore/hardcore via BMTH does. Giving kids shit for liking that is just weird coming from you - think of how you would have felt when you were literally one of them.


WSS EP had a little bit of character in it, it wasn't massively out there but it was decent enough. New stuff has none of that flair or character which is a shame, I always liked the band because of that but now they're just like every other band.

I also have no problem with BMTH. I didn't like them at first, then I heard the song with Sam Carter in, got into them more, and their new album is pretty decent. Nothing groundbreaking but it's fun to listen to it. What I was getting at was the fact that the kids who listen to Last Witness rag on BMTH, when LW sound incredibly similar to BMTH.

However I've liked BMTH for a while now, and I expect to get shit for liking them, same with some other bands I listen to, like A7X and Muse, but I don't go walking around like I'm metalcore god cos I like BMTH.

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You always seem to complain about UK bands being boring/getting worse with age/being ruined by their fans, but you only ever seem to talk about big bands on major labels who are releasing their third album or whatever. You should try getting into smaller bands that are doing more relevant things and haven't had their output dumbed down by record labels, producers and journalists. Try checking out the bands on the following labels (I know this contradicts what I just said, but they are different kinds of label altogether): Dog Knights Productions, Tangled Talk Records, Brain Ache Records & Holy Roar Records.

In particular, these bands might go some way to restoring your faith in UK hardcore/punk/pop punk etc (without getting too obscure or crusty - you might find your way to that eventually I suppose):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9TUJv9_-cc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEma-k1YlBo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7TbNyThXmg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ns8cq73VxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K8AyLFbG0U
http://hindsights.bandcamp.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN_azkPSO20


I'll check them out later. I do have a fairly limited spectra of music I admit that, because I don't really have time to search for the obscure bands and stuff. Norwich is bad enough for gigs as it is so I suppose I just end up liking the more mainstream stuff. But there's good mainstream and there's bad mainstream, and most of the mainstream stuff seems to be pretty bad/boring with a few exceptions right now.
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I did really enjoy the part where you ripped on a certain clothing company from up here though (I'm pretty sure that's what you were doing anyway).


Are you talking about? Honor Over Glory. I'm fine with them but it literally seems every 18-25 year old and their nan are bringing out a "clothing line" right now, with the name "Randomword Apparel" or "______ over ______ / _________ before ________ clothing" when all they have is a Bigcartel site with some shit designs on it.
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#26
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True, to an extent, but at least it was far more interesting to listen to than the new stuff.


First song: Not a massive fan to be honest. Has an old school Screamo vibe at some points which is cool, but doesn't really do much for me.

Second Song: Didn't grab me to start with, but after a while I started to dig it. Kinda Convergy which is always a good thing. The dissonant melodic parts are the high light for me.

Third Song: Pretty cool, didn't really hook me in though.

Fourth Song: Intro really hooked me. This is actually really damn good. I'll have to look into these guys more.

Fifth Song: Did not like this at all to start with, the guitar melody sounded far too indie to me. And due to pretty much all the indie fans I knew when the genre first gained popularity where the biggest arseholes ever I have a kneejerk against that kinda thing. Pretty solid sounding skate punk though, kinda like a slower, less fun Bouncing Souls, again it's only okay.

Sixth Song: This band sounds like a very solid version of really boring music, do not want.

Seventh Song: Like the singers voice, pretty cool, nice melodies. Another one I dig.

I find a lot of this just "okay". I find too much of it to be "Plaidshirt" hardcore. As in I can just imagine the show being full of kids with stupid haircuts wearing plaid shirts only button up on the top button. Maybe this just isn't the kind of Hardcore for me.


First Song: I didn't like personally
Second Song: Good, sounded like a riffier version of Your Demise's old stuff with George Noble
Third Song: Not really riffy enough for me, but reminds me of Defeater.
Fourth Song: I like this, sounds like a cross between Underoath, FFTL and Defeater, which may be a bizarre description but it sounds like that to me.
Fifth Song: Good, like Title Fight, but with a less raw tone, I dig this.
Sixth Song: Don't like it as much as the fifth
Seventh Song: Best of the bunch. Like a more interesting MD&M.
#28
There's a lot of good UKHC bands around, but most of them seem to suffer from problems of production (which I guess in turn comes from the problem of lack of money). Out of all the tracks asator (don't know your name, whatever) posted, Grader are the only band I'm familiar with (their back catalogue is definitely worth checking out). If you go through the stores for the record labels that were posted you're bound to find some gold.
Eg:
Planet Nibiru (holy roar) http://planetnibiru.bandcamp.com/

Ark Of The Covenant (now defunct CCHC band, but have an awesome demo and a split with abolition): http://tdonrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ark-of-the-covenant-demo

Throats (Also now split up, but their discography is free to download, look on their fb page): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyFbQenzao

Crossbreaker - Their EP "Lows" (TDON/Holy Roar) is well worth checking out, as well as their split with fellow TDON band No Reality.
#31
As We Sink are good too
http://aswesink.bandcamp.com/

EDIT: I like that Bangers band, they do sound like MD&M if MD&M were interesting! They kinda remind me of Iron Chic and similar bands too.


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#32
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There's a lot of good UKHC bands around, but most of them seem to suffer from problems of production (which I guess in turn comes from the problem of lack of money). Out of all the tracks asator (don't know your name, whatever) posted, Grader are the only band I'm familiar with (their back catalogue is definitely worth checking out). If you go through the stores for the record labels that were posted you're bound to find some gold.
Eg:
Planet Nibiru (holy roar) http://planetnibiru.bandcamp.com/

Ark Of The Covenant (now defunct CCHC band, but have an awesome demo and a split with abolition): http://tdonrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ark-of-the-covenant-demo

Throats (Also now split up, but their discography is free to download, look on their fb page): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyFbQenzao

Crossbreaker - Their EP "Lows" (TDON/Holy Roar) is well worth checking out, as well as their split with fellow TDON band No Reality.

My name is Danny. I like it when bands sound like bands and not engineers getting trigger happy (this is the best pun anyone is ever going to make - applaud me). Throats are probably one of the best bands ever to come out of the UK. Their split with Maths (who are also incredible) rules.
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As We Sink are good too
http://aswesink.bandcamp.com/

EDIT: I like that Bangers band, they do sound like MD&M if MD&M were interesting! They kinda remind me of Iron Chic and similar bands too.

As We Sink are the nicest dudes! Hung out with them a few nights back/played a show with them in Plymouth. It's like if Millencolin jammed with A Wilhelm Scream. Backed hard.

Also, Bangers toured with Iron Chic last year, so you're not the only one who's noticed such similarities
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#33
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My name is Danny. I like it when bands sound like bands and not engineers getting trigger happy (this is the best pun anyone is ever going to make - applaud me). Throats are probably one of the best bands ever to come out of the UK. Their split with Maths (who are also incredible) rules.



Throats are amazing yes! That split with maths is indeed incredible too. Recently acquired their split with tomassi off a mate who's selling off some of his collection (as well as TWIN by Iron Age, which freaking rules). He's also promised to reserve me his copy of their self titled 12" as he knows I've wanted it for ages. Stoooooked.
#34
On the occasions I go to a hardcore or pop punk show ('Throats', 'Trash Talk', 'Defeater', 'Title Fight', etc) I always see boys in their chinos, VANS, tunnels, flannel, straight peak and everything else.

On the rare occasions I go to emo/screamo shows ('Football, etc', 'The Get Up Kids, 'Loma Prieta', etc) I see boys in old band t-shirts, XXL denim or flannels, deck shoes with torn jeans rolled up, beards and fake glasses.

I prefer the latter.
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On the occasions I go to a hardcore or pop punk show ('Throats', 'Trash Talk', 'Defeater', 'Title Fight', etc) I always see boys in their chinos, VANS, tunnels, flannel, straight peak and everything else.

On the rare occasions I go to emo/screamo shows ('Football, etc', 'The Get Up Kids, 'Loma Prieta', etc) I see boys in old band t-shirts, XXL denim or flannels, deck shoes with torn jeans rolled up, beards and fake glasses.

I prefer the latter.


Pretty sure when ever I've gone to Hardcore shows you don't get people who are one or the other... but people that are a strange mash of the two.
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#36
You got your poseur hipsters who are quite into their tough guy hardcore and that, they consist of TOPMAN chinos and shirts.

I preferred the crowds out in Austin, pretty much everyone had a good band shirt on, I felt at home.
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I preferred the crowds out in Austin, pretty much everyone had a good band shirt on, I felt at home.


I'd kill for that. Every "hardcore fan" around here thinks Enter Shikari are the best shit around.
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#38
Saying that though, I've never been to a hardcore house show or that so my statements are based on personal experience. However, as Danny said, you get a different type of guy at a smaller hardcore show, like a house for example. They're normally pretty nerdy too, so dropping in Star Wars or SKYRIM is a good way of making friends.

What's up with every tough guy loving COD anyways?
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#39
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What's up with every tough guy loving COD anyways?


Lack of culture, no taste in music and no taste in video games.
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