JDRed
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I own the Fender Mustang III amp. Great modeling amp, sparkling cleans, and nice vintage overdrive. However, I play in a Metal-core band. Therefore, I NEED extreme distortion, and the mustang just isn't cutting it. So the Peavey Vypyr seems like the obvious choice of modeling amp, right? Well, not so much. I've played it before, and it's distorted sounds are top-notch for digital, but I unfortunately only had a couple minutes with it, and never had a chance to try out the cleans. I love playing every style, blues, country, jazz. So I really need an amp that can handle both. Has anyone owned a Vypyr before, and if so, how are the cleans/ vintage sounds? I play everything from Elvis and Les Paul to The Contortionist. And yes, I do prefer tube, but am on a tight budget, and cannot afford a decent Jet City or Bulgera and all the pedals I need.
romeozdistress
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are you opposed going for a used vypyr tube 60?
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I'd say the Roland cubes can do everything you need. I have a Cube 80XL and its a pretty damn great amp for the price, loud as hell too.
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JDRed
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No, I'm not opposed to getting a used vypyr tube, but the tubes would get worn out pretty fast. I play about two shows a week so yeah. I'll look into the Roland.
JDRed
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I looked at the Roland, great sound for the buck, but I'm really looking for a two speaker amp if it's going to be solid state. And I suppose I should say what I'm using guitar-wise, I'm using a MIM Fender Tele, and for heavy stuff, a Schecter Damien Elite.
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Cathbard
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Stick decent tubes in it and you'll still get a couple of years out of them easy. The Vyper Tube craps on the others.
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JDRed
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About 400 dollars. Really leaning towards that Vypyr Tube, it just doesn't seem so reliable. You have to let it warm up, which isn't great for shows and such. I don't know, maybe I'll just sell some old gear and get a Vypyr 100 for hardcore shows, and get a Jet City JCA20H and JCA12S half-stack for everything else.
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Quote by JDRed
About 400 dollars. Really leaning towards that Vypyr Tube, it just doesn't seem so reliable. You have to let it warm up, which isn't great for shows and such. I don't know, maybe I'll just sell some old gear and get a Vypyr 100 for hardcore shows, and get a Jet City JCA20H and JCA12S half-stack for everything else.

It might be cheaper to follow Cathard's advice. Get the Vypyr and buy new tubes. If you get some spares it'll still be cheaper than buying the JetCity and Vypyr.
guitarguychris1
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Quote by JDRed
I looked at the Roland, great sound for the buck, but I'm really looking for a two speaker amp if it's going to be solid state. And I suppose I should say what I'm using guitar-wise, I'm using a MIM Fender Tele, and for heavy stuff, a Schecter Damien Elite.


The Roland is seriously Loud for a ss, and the 1 speaker has plenty of low end. And when you play live they usually only mic 1 speaker anyway. Plus its built like a tank, so that makes it a good gigging amp.
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Cathbard
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You have to let it warm up for about 2 minutes. How is that a hassle at a gig? You don't have two minutes?
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romeozdistress
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i heard the tube 60 sounds alot better. still waiting for mine to arrive.
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Quote by JDRed
I'm not opposed to getting a used vypyr tube, but the tubes would get worn out pretty fast. I play about two shows a week so yeah


Umm... tubes can last quite a long time. Couple years at least. I retubed the power section of my amp last year, and prior to that they hadn't been changed in roughly 6 years.


Quote by JDRed
Really leaning towards that Vypyr Tube, it just doesn't seem so reliable. You have to let it warm up, which isn't great for shows and such.


How is this related to reliability? It's not like preheating an oven. You flip it on, tune up, take it out of standby, and you're ready to go. You don't even HAVE to let it warm up, it just makes your tubes last longer.
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I've had a pair of 6L6's last almost 10 years in my Abbey with regular gigging. Not NOS ones either, just crappy old Sovteks. They didn't blow either, they just started to sound weak. Running NOS in it now. If Sovteks lasted 10 years the Brimars will probably outlast me.
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Yeah no kidding. Mine were the original mesa branded tubes that came in the amp when it was bought new. One of them shorted out and fried my fuse, so I figured I'd just replace them all.
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Some of the ideas people have about tube amps is a bit odd. Most of the preamp valves in my Abbey are over 30 years old and still going strong (BEL's which were made by Mullard in India). The only positions that don't have them have other NOS tubes I thought sounded a bit better. The ones I pulled out are still perfect. That amp has had some serious work too.
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