#1
so a friend of a friend is selling a fender FM 212R and i was wondering, what do these amps sound like on the clean channel???
because i prefer a clean sound...

i currently have a Vox VT50 and run it through the boutique clean setting, is it worth me getting the 212R for a cleaner sound, or keep the VT50

**price isn't an issue, as i haven't been told one yet, i'll haggle with him if the amp is going to be a nicer clean than my current one

thanks
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#2
Your VT50 is better on its own. A Frontman only makes sense if youre going to run a modelling pedal through its FX return, cause it has a very clean sounding poweramp. Youll still need to swap out the speakers on the combo though.

If its really cheap, like a hundred dollars or so, then its worth a try.
#3
Well the fender will probably sound a little more clean than the vox. I don't know if the british/american sounds apply to cheap-o solid states though. If you can get it cheap you might as well get it. You can use if for a bunch of shit if you don't like it. Like a mini "pa" for your room.
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#4
can't go wrong with fender cleans. i've never played that vox before but the only cleans on a vox i personally think are a nice clean is the ac30 and 15. You will most likely get a good offer for the frontman because they only go for about 300 new, if they are asking for more than 2 just pass. if you end up liking fender clean then you can be looking at some great amps when it comes time for an upgrade.
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#5
I used the FM212R a while for cleans and it was probably the best cheap clean solid state amp, in my opinion.
#7
cheers guys, s'pose i'll have to see how much he's after and go from there
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can't go wrong with fender cleans. i've never played that vox before but the only cleans on a vox i personally think are a nice clean is the ac30 and 15. You will most likely get a good offer for the frontman because they only go for about 300 new, if they are asking for more than 2 just pass. if you end up liking fender clean then you can be looking at some great amps when it comes time for an upgrade.

I'm sorry? You are extending the term "Fender cleans" to include a Frontman?
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#10
wow guy, relax
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Quote by CaptainAmerican
I would recommend the marshal MG100

Very versatile and quality sound. It should treat you well
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wow guy, relax

he can't relax.

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Anyway, I've got to get back to building my Tweed Deluxe clone. Now that's the sort of thing people mean when they talk about "Fender cleans", not some budget SS piece of crap they churn out in Chinese sweat shops.
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#13
If you call Frontman cleans Fender cleans then you've already gone wrong with Fender cleans.
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If you call Frontman cleans Fender cleans then you've already gone wrong with Fender cleans.



well i haven't so don't you worry about a thing
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well i haven't so don't you worry about a thing


You did imply that a frontman has fender cleans.
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#17
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cheers guys, s'pose i'll have to see how much he's after and go from there

Don't waste your money, like people have already said it's a worse amp than your Vox, and the Frontman doesn't do anything that the Vox can't already do better.
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Don't waste your money, like people have already said it's a worse amp than your Vox, and the Frontman doesn't do anything that the Vox can't already do better.


Not true. It makes a much better paperweight. Don't get it TS
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#19
thanks for the replies everyone, he's after £140 anyway which is about £50 over what i was intending to pay anyway, wasn't gonna get rid of my vox, just have it along side, but i don't actually have the space anyway.

so after all your helpful (and some unhelpful) replies, i think i'm gonna leave it.

cheers
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#20
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thanks for the replies everyone, he's after £140 anyway which is about £50 over what i was intending to pay anyway, wasn't gonna get rid of my vox, just have it along side, but i don't actually have the space anyway.

so after all your helpful (and some unhelpful) replies, i think i'm gonna leave it.

cheers

It would have very much been a downgrade - if you want a reliable amp with great cleans the old Peavey Stereo Chorus's are very much worth a look though.
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#21
Would have been a waste of time and money. The Vox is a pretty capable amp, the Frontman is basically trash (except as a cheap clean SS power section for modellers).