#1
After finally getting an amazing clean out of my JCA20, I'm a bit disappointed in my HT-1. The cleans on it are good, but I'm growing tired of it. So what do? I can sell it (plus some old crap I have laying around and maybe throw in a few bucks) and get either an HT-20 or a Peavey Windsor. If I'm correct, the Windsor is a JCM800 clone, right? They both sound good from demos, and I have a decent cab (which I plan on upgrading in a few months anyways), but can't decide which one.

So for these exact sounds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQMBz6HvSoM (Kickstart My Heart)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-hEyVQDRA (Master of Puppets)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeS7TttYirE (Symphony of Destruction)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZXs5bNDRz4 (A cover of Talk Dirty to Me)

Which would get me closer? I have a few OD and distortion pedals to help, cleans aren't necessary, I'm looking for a hair and heavy metal type sound. Dr. Feelgood and Kill 'em All are the two albums that show what I want best.

If you recommend a different amp, keep the price low (<$500), make sure it's good, and if you say "used xxx," please recommend one that's easy to find used for a reasonable price. No "look around for 10 hours and find one that's still $50 out of budget" recommendations. Should I just go for a used 6505, though? Kinda think it's too "br00tz."
Last edited by Wisthekiller at Feb 10, 2012,
#2
Quote by Wisthekiller
After finally getting an amazing clean out of my JCA20, I'm a bit disappointed in my HT-1. The cleans on it are good, but I'm growing tired of it. So what do? I can sell it (plus some old crap I have laying around and maybe throw in a few bucks) and get either an HT-20 or a Peavey Windsor. If I'm correct, the Windsor is a JCM800 clone, right? They both sound good from demos, and I have a decent cab (which I plan on upgrading in a few months anyways), but can't decide which one.

So for these exact sounds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQMBz6HvSoM (Kickstart My Heart)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-hEyVQDRA (Master of Puppets)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeS7TttYirE (Symphony of Destruction)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZXs5bNDRz4 (A cover of Talk Dirty to Me)

Which would get me closer? I have a few OD and distortion pedals to help, cleans aren't necessary, I'm looking for a hair and heavy metal type sound. Dr. Feelgood and Kill 'em All are the two albums that show what I want best.

If you recommend a different amp, keep the price low (<$500), make sure it's good, and if you say "used xxx," please recommend one that's easy to find used for a reasonable price. No "look around for 10 hours and find one that's still $50 out of budget" recommendations. AND NO 6505 or 5150!!!


Didn't Metallica use Plexi's or JCM's in the early days? I'd personally rather have the Blackstar especially if it has the ISF. The Windsor is a really good amp though!
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#6
I'm always amazed how many wrong informations there are when it comes to what Metallica used.

Anyway, I'd say get the Blackstar if you are more into higher gain stuff.
Maybe also look into Jet City, they do a really good 80's metal tone.
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#7
Quote by Wisthekiller
So the Windsor seems like the best choice here?

Totally.
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#8
I have a HT-20 so i'm going to recommend it like hell. It is as good as it looks and it'd definitely be able to produce the tones you're looking for.
#9
Quote by mnf50
I have a HT-20 so i'm going to recommend it like hell. It is as good as it looks and it'd definitely be able to produce the tones you're looking for.



I have the HT-1, and from that alone my complaints are that the ISF just makes it sound bad when it's on anything other than fully on the US side, the OD channel really just adds more buzz but no more gain, and with too much gain it kinda has fizzy overtones. Not sure how the HT-20 is though.
#10
Quote by JesusCrisp
I'm always amazed how many wrong informations there are when it comes to what Metallica used.


You may find this hard to believe but, some people aren't massive fans of Metallica

I'd rather have the HT, but the Windsor seems more appropriate for what you're after.
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#13
Windsor hands down.
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#14
Quote by Wisthekiller
Not too sure of that part...


Not trying to change the subject but yeah, I'm pretty sure there are people that don't like Metallica haha.

If you crank the pre-amp of the Windsor and put a overdrive through it (My fave being a Zakk Wylde MXR Overdrive through 800) it will sound beasty!
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Quote by Tokai09
You may find this hard to believe but, some people aren't massive fans of Metallica

Still they are acting as if they'd know their sh*t.
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#17
Quote by JesusCrisp
Still they are acting as if they'd know their sh*t.

Then why did they allow such hideous amounts of compression in the mastering of their last albums? Those things are practically unlistenable. Even a petition signed by multitudes of their fans had no effect on them. From the black album on they became a corporate money machine and nothing else. Total unmitigated sell-outs.
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#18
Quote by JesusCrisp
Still they are acting as if they'd know their sh*t.



Nah, I just said what I've heard haha. Even still, you can get an thrash sound with a Windsor and distortion or overdrive pedal.
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