#1
So I just bought the Egnater Rebel 30 head and cab and the head has two extensions and a switch to set it to 16, 8, or 4 ohms.

The 112 cab has two inputs and between the two it says 16 ohms.

Help?

And there's a slight hum when I take it off standby. Is that normal?
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#2
Unnecessary self bump.

I'm impatient and I wanna start playing!! Pwease help!?
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#4
Set the head to 16 ohms so the impedance matches the cab's. And run two cables to the cab from the head, thus the two inputs.
#5
make sure to use speaker cables, not instrument cables, or you might blow the transformer.
#6
Quote by xSOHx
Set the head to 16 ohms so the impedance matches the cab's. And run two cables to the cab from the head, thus the two inputs.


There was only one cable used at the store.......and they only gave me one......

And is some hum normal?
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#7
Hum is normal, just signal running through the speakers. And I'd say just go buy another cable to use so nothing gets fried.
#8
Quote by xSOHx
Set the head to 16 ohms so the impedance matches the cab's. And run two cables to the cab from the head, thus the two inputs.


do not run two speaker cables from your amp to the cabinet...

did any of this equpment come with a Manual???

The cab is 16 ohms.. Set the Amp to 16 ohms and plug one cable into it...

The other input on the cab is so that the cabinet can be daisy chained to another cabinet. It's actually just a pass through connection... Daisychaning cabinets is a whole other impedence discussion...

Just use one cable... make sure it's a speaker cable and not a sheilded instrument cable... Any questions.. Google is your friend...

Found the manual Here
http://www.egnateramps.com/manuals/Rebel30Head.pdf

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Set the head to 16 ohms so the impedance matches the cab's. And run two cables to the cab from the head, thus the two inputs.


what the ****?

yeah don't do that

do you have a link to the egnater cab you bought? is it the 1x12?
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do you have a link to the egnater cab you bought? is it the 1x12?


http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/egnater-rebel-112x-1x12-guitar-extension-cabinet

The second pic shows the two jacks on the cab.

EDIT: Just saw Papa's post. Thanks.

And....is the hum normal?

EDIT: Just saw xSOHx's post. I really should stop scrolling the the bottom and reading only the last post
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#11
thanks

i'm guessing one of them is so you can connect to another cab. just it doesn't make clear which is which (unless it doesn't matter, i have no idea).

time to hit the manual or email them, i think. you want to be careful about connecting speakers to a valve amp, if you do something wrong and have the amp running without a proper load it can kill your output transformer.
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thanks

i'm guessing one of them is so you can connect to another cab. just it doesn't make clear which is which (unless it doesn't matter, i have no idea).

time to hit the manual or email them, i think. you want to be careful about connecting speakers to a valve amp, if you do something wrong and have the amp running without a proper load it can kill your output transformer.


The manual doesn't say anything. I'll email them. But I already played for 1+ hours on it so..........
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#13
run 1 speaker cable from one of the outs on the amplifier head into 1 of the inputs on the cabinet. make sure the amp is set to 16 ohm output.

do not use a standard patch cord to connect you cabinet and head, you want to use a 1/4" speaker cable.

the 'extra input' on the cabinet is for daisy chaining additional cabinets, not for additional input.

tube amps want a 'matched' impedance, so if the amp is set to 16 ohms, then it wants to see a 16 ohm cabinet. if the amp is set to 8 ohms, it wants to see an 8 ohm cabinet.

edit: btw guys, those 1/4" jacks on cabinets are almost always wired in parallel (unless otherwise noted). so doesn't matter which one you plug into.
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thanks
time to hit the manual or email them, i think. you want to be careful about connecting speakers to a valve amp, if you do something wrong and have the amp running without a proper load it can kill your output transformer.


+1. I'm worried about the fact that you are talking about hum before you have this impedance issue sorted. If you don't connect your amp to your cab with the proper cable and impedance, you can actually kill your amp. Impedance is absolutely to not be taken lightly.

Sounds like you got lucky. But really, you should have taken the time to learn about this stuff before you jumped into it.
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edit: btw guys, those 1/4" jacks on cabinets are almost always wired in parallel (unless otherwise noted). so doesn't matter which one you plug into.


ah ok thanks for the info. i thought something like that might be going on, but i obviously wasn't going to say something when i didn't know
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+1. I'm worried about the fact that you are talking about hum before you have this impedance issue sorted.


yeah, it can be pretty bad, you can melt an OT. that being said, many amp makers assume we are pretty dumb about techie things so they generally engineer some fudge room (occasional dummy loads, stringed diodes between OT and power tubes, stuff like that).

TS, i wouldn't worry to much about messing your amp up. i have played months on amps before realizing a speaker was dead... which means i was playing with 1 speaker getting ALL the wattage AND running a mismatched impedance!

i am not saying that you should be reckless and plug into whatever with no idea what you are doing. but guitar amps tend to be more forgiving with mismatches, so don't beat yourself up too bad. enjoy your amp.
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Sounds like you got lucky. But really, you should have taken the time to learn about this stuff before you jumped into it.


I understood it, it's just that I had no idea what the second jack on the cab was for. I knew that the cab takes 16 ohms but wasn't sure why there were two inputs.

I'll post a NAD thread soon.......or tomorrow.
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She insists to wear this lights.

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How can I persuade her?
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yeah, it can be pretty bad, you can melt an OT. that being said, many amp makers assume we are pretty dumb about techie things so they generally engineer some fudge room (occasional dummy loads, stringed diodes between OT and power tubes, stuff like that).

TS, i wouldn't worry to much about messing your amp up. i have played months on amps before realizing a speaker was dead... which means i was playing with 1 speaker getting ALL the wattage AND running a mismatched impedance!

i am not saying that you should be reckless and plug into whatever with no idea what you are doing. but guitar amps tend to be more forgiving with mismatches, so don't beat yourself up too bad. enjoy your amp.


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#19
I'm not sure if the hum is normal now because it's there even if I plug my guitar out and it's much louder than the satisfying purring of a tube amp. And the hum on the clean channel is quite a bit louder than hum(purring) on the drive channel.

Should I take it back. GC is 45 mins away........
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I'm not sure if the hum is normal now because it's there even if I plug my guitar out and it's much louder than the satisfying purring of a tube amp. And the hum on the clean channel is quite a bit louder than hum(purring) on the drive channel.

Should I take it back. GC is 45 mins away........


If the hum is louder than you think it should be with nothing plugged into the amp, then sure.. Take it back and see if they can at least make sure that it's ok... Is it still under warranty?
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#21
I emailed Egnater and they said its a bad preamp tube. I'll take it back today.
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aw

Normally I just +1 what you and the other tech badasses say
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Set the head to 16 ohms so the impedance matches the cab's. And run two cables to the cab from the head, thus the two inputs.

Take a look at this quote below. Notice how it differs from yours?

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ah ok thanks for the info. i thought something like that might be going on, but i obviously wasn't going to say something when i didn't know

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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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