#1
I'm thinking about buying a PRS SE Custom, I tried one out in the shop and they were pretty hot, anyone have any opinions on them?
#3
I've felt the previous SEs were built fairly well, but for the price you can get much better elsewhere and I was never too happy with them being flattops. I am keen to try out the new 2012 models though, whenever they start shipping out - bevelled tops and blade switches are a big improvement. Still not sure if they're going to be worth the price tag given you can get guitars of equal build quality, with the same parts for half the price from other brands, but we'll see.

In short, I would wait for the updated models to come in. They should be considerably nicer than the current ones.

Also I really think it is worth stressing again that for the price of a MIK PRS SE you can get a second hand MIA or MIJ guitar (or even a new MIA guitar if you look at the Fender/Gibson Juniors, Specials and Studios, or even the PRS Mira).
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#4
I used to have a Gibson LP studio but sold it, I currently have a Gibson SG and a Fender Tele so wanted something a bit different
#5
I've played several, most of them have felt pretty nice. I played a Santana SE that was ridiculously smooth. IMO they are a good buy for the money. (Especially used)
#6
never played one. apparently real nice, no shop i know around melbourne (or that ive been to) sell em..
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I used to have a Gibson LP studio but sold it, I currently have a Gibson SG and a Fender Tele so wanted something a bit different

Maybe get something with P90s then?
Or a semi-hollowbody?
Or a semi with P90s?

What I'd recommend looking at:
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Or maybe something like a Charvel or EVH Wolfgang if you want a Floyd Rose guitar.
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I used to have a Gibson LP studio but sold it, I currently have a Gibson SG and a Fender Tele so wanted something a bit different
Then there's really not much point in you buying a PRS SE. Any SE is going to feel like a downgrade from the SG and won't offer much different, unless you happened to get one of the old semi-hollow models with P-90s (and even then, in terms of objective quality the SE will still be noticably inferior).

So you know, the PRS equivilent of a Gibson SG, both in terms of quality and sound, is the PRS Mira.

If you've had a LP, you've got an SG and a Tele and want something else, try a Strat, or a Jazzmaster, or a Jaguar, or an archtop. There's a thousand and one other types of guitar out there which will give you something that your current guitars do, more so than any PRS SE will.
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#10
You are all wrong.

The only correct answer in this thread is:


2nd hand PRS CE

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#11
Quote by Tom 1.0
You are all wrong.

The only correct answer in this thread is:


2nd hand PRS CE
Weren't they A) bolt-ons, thus vastly changing the character of the PRS style, and B) about a grand and a half new? On the off-chance you find one second hand I can't imagine you'd find it for the same sort of price as the SE line.
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#12
Says a man who clearly never played one...

They had a deep set bolt on so they felt the same to play apart from the gloriously done unfinished neck, they are practically identical tonally and they go for well under £1k in the UK and for even less usually in the states, like for something daft like $800-1600.

They are fantastic guitars and are on par with the "real" customs and the like.

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#13
Jesus christ, no need for the hostilities, I never said I'd played one, hence why I was asking.

Anyhoo, looking on eBay right now, second hand CEs are between £800 and £1,200 (including a rather tasty candy purple one. Never knew PRS did that finish. Don't suppose anybody fancies getting me a late christmas present? No? Shame). That's a fair way off SE prices. I mean, that's still more than a brand new Mira.
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I'm thinking about buying a PRS SE Custom, I tried one out in the shop and they were pretty hot, anyone have any opinions on them?


I'd wait for the 2012 model, it's got quite a few upgrades as stated a bit above. Semi-carved top instead of flat, bird inlays, and coil split. Can't wait for it tbh, I hope to get my hands on one when they come out in Europe.
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#15
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Jesus christ, no need for the hostilities, I never said I'd played one, hence why I was asking.

Anyhoo, looking on eBay right now, second hand CEs are between £800 and £1,200 (including a rather tasty candy purple one. Never knew PRS did that finish. Don't suppose anybody fancies getting me a late christmas present? No? Shame). That's a fair way off SE prices. I mean, that's still more than a brand new Mira.


What hostilities?

They are a pricier, but not a lot, I mean a Toreo is what like £900? Mental money IMO

If you want cheap PRS, eBay is the wrong place to look check out birds and moons and your GAS will go mental.

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#16
The Torero is a badly delievered joke, as far as I'm concerned.

Hmm, PRS galleries do give me some degree of GAS, but they don't make enough guitars in purple. Everything's bloody yellow or red with them. I like my guitars to look fab-u-lous~!

(No seriously I am a flaming queen when it comes to guitars these days)
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#17


I know you can get the CEs in a few very tasty Solid colours they did and the purple one was nice.

I think the Toreo was a knee jerk reaction and the mongs that demanded a guitar like that didnt really buy them when they came out. Personally I would take a used Ce with locking tuners and PRS trem which is more than stable for my trem usage... I think the toreo was the neck paul allender guitar that never happened...

They also just feel completely dead.

Dreadful guitars.

Shame because when the CU22/24 first came out they were only like £449 which was a steal.

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#18
Are the 2011 pickups the same as the 2012 pickups just with coil tapping?
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I know you can get the CEs in a few very tasty Solid colours they did and the purple one was nice.

I think the Toreo was a knee jerk reaction and the mongs that demanded a guitar like that didnt really buy them when they came out. Personally I would take a used Ce with locking tuners and PRS trem which is more than stable for my trem usage... I think the toreo was the neck paul allender guitar that never happened...

They also just feel completely dead.

Dreadful guitars.

Shame because when the CU22/24 first came out they were only like £449 which was a steal.


I was going to get one for a time. They felt ok, but nothing special in the slightest. Way overpriced. I'm not sure what you mean by being completely 'dead' though. As in acoustically?
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#20
Dead.

Flat, no personality, boring when amplified and flat when played acoustically, all the SEs have an essence of the real PRS feel about them, the toreo doesnt to me.

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#21
Quote by Tom 1.0
Dead.

Flat, no personality, boring when amplified and flat when played acoustically, all the SEs have an essence of the real PRS feel about them, the toreo doesnt to me.


I know what you mean. I'd mistake it for a Schecter Hellraiser as well.
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#24
Quote by Tom 1.0
Says a man who clearly never played one...

They had a deep set bolt on so they felt the same to play apart from the gloriously done unfinished neck, they are practically identical tonally and they go for well under £1k in the UK and for even less usually in the states, like for something daft like $800-1600.

They are fantastic guitars and are on par with the "real" customs and the like.


I will second this, and also recommend the old PRS EG models, especially the ones with Fralin "domino" pickups.
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I've had mine for 4 years and have beat the living hell out of it but it still is solid as the day I got it. Sounds great and insanely reliable.
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#26
one of the best steals in teh industry if you grab one used.

ive seen em go used for 350. with some mods i would totall rock one - think the carve on the body is superior to a les paul and much lighter. surprising high quality for a lower end asian guitar.

i dont like the controls except for the 245 - a les paul 4 knob style.

i would be really happy with a SE 245, lockin tuners, tone pros wrap around, and some decent mid range pups. perhaps wire my own coil tap, and strap locks.

oh man....seriously i might do that instead of dropping 1G on a premade guitar i dont get to customize. that or a carvin.
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Sweet mother of god, the Artist model with the all-rosewood neck. That is literally a guitar I never thought would exist but always wanted.

Shit. I just got all my purchases in order. Had a Tele lined up, a Thinline, an SG and then I thought I might get one of the 2012 SE Orianthi models to finish off my year.

Nope, nope. Gonna have to get me a purple PRS now.
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#29
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The Torero is a badly delievered joke, as far as I'm concerned.


That's funny (to me)...I keep asking our SE guy to watch out for a Torero for me. That's what I'm GAS'ing for. That, and a SE Korina One, but I already have two guitars with soap bars.
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#30
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That's funny (to me)...I keep asking our SE guy to watch out for a Torero for me. That's what I'm GAS'ing for. That, and a SE Korina One, but I already have two guitars with soap bars.


I used to be just like you. But playing one is a bland experience.
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I used to be just like you. But playing one is a bland experience.


Hey, if you've played them and didn't like them, that's unfortunate, but not every guitar speaks to everyone! I played the first two prototypes and a few that have come through since then. still want!
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Hey, if you've played them and didn't like them, that's unfortunate, but not every guitar speaks to everyone! I played the first two prototypes and a few that have come through since then. still want!


I've really, really wanted to like them. But i've played 3 Torero's just in case the one i played was a dud. I still stand by my claim.

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I've played 3 Torero's just in case the one i played was a dud. I still stand by my claim.

Your sig isn't helping your unbiased opinion.


?

I'm not refuting your opinion. A lot of people don't like Telecasters. I do.
#34
Quote by Dr Sixstring
Are the 2011 pickups the same as the 2012 pickups just with coil tapping?

Nope. Semi-carved top, smaller heel, blade switch, birds inlays, maple neck.

And it's called coil splitting, coil tap is something about singlecoils.
#35
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And it's called coil splitting, coil tap is something about singlecoils.


Wasn't there a link to an article on that recently?

But all companies call it coil tapping so I'm pretty confused.
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But all companies call it coil tapping so I'm pretty confused.
Only dumb companies (or companies that know most of their customers are dumb) call it 'coil tapping'.

A coil 'split' means taking a two-coil pickup and removing one coil from the circuit (usually by sending its signal to ground). This leaves you with just one coil working; the pickup is now a single coil pickup.

A coil 'tap' is where a single coil pickup is made with a portion of its wire separated from the rest, so using a switch you can add the extra windings in for a full, powerful tone or you can flip the switch, take those extra windings out and get a thinner, lower-output tone.

Of course there are exceptions, such as humbuckers with an actual coil tap feature (incredibly rare; I've only ever seen it done once and that was a custom wind) or ''stacked'' single coils that are actually two coils that can be split, which acts just like a tap would. But the point is, tap and split are different and are not to be confused. They do two different things and work in a different way.

People started calling splits taps for the same reason why people call vibratos tremolos; people are, by and large, stupid. Many of the people running the big guitar brands in the early days weren't guitar players or even builders themselves and frequently got terms confused. These confused terms stuck with the public, because people trusted guys like Leo Fender even though he was the sort of nonce that put a thumb rest below the strings on a bass guitar.
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