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Well, it's finally all here! The cab arrived yesterday morning.




I was impressed with this amp right out of the box. Everything was well packaged, both switches in the off position and all the knobs on zero. So I'll give them a 9 on that front.

A quality speaker cable was provided, that was nice.

I tried out the headphone jack first and was impressed with the level of volume control when using headphones. I was able to get the volume to about 1 o'clock before it started to get really loud. I did notice that when I went back to standby it took a few seconds for the signal to go away from the headphones. I'll give this option a 7.5

I had to play with the foot switch cable to get it going and I wouldn't say it's "seamless" 4.5.

Channel 1 is good, not Twin Reverb good. You can definitely get some dirt here with gain turned up and beefy pick up to match. I'll give that a 6, because they bragged abot it being so good I was a little let down.

Channel 2 is awesome! Plenty of crunch to go around here, folks. Even at low volumes it sounded pretty good. Brown sound and more to spare. Channel 2 gets a 9.

Channel 3 has a ton of gain, then some more gain on top of that. I dialed in Ed's early 90's tone easily on this channel. It was a little noisy so I'll give an 8.

Sorry for the weak review, it's 3:00 am and I need to get some sleep.
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#2
HNAD! Eddie would be proud. Enjoy it!
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#3
Happy New Amp Day I have been looking at buying one of these (or a Carvin V3M). Best of luck with the amp
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DAMN! very nice!
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#7
Quote by GS LEAD 5
HNAD! Epic amp.

Though why are you running a 50W amp into what looks like a 25W cab?


The impedance is matched at 16 ohms, I don't think there should be a problem.
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#8
Quote by scott john
The impedance is matched at 16 ohms, I don't think there should be a problem.


if blowing the 25w speaker isnt a problem for you.
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Quote by maddnotez
if blowing the 25w speaker isnt a problem for you.


Why would they sell it as a package if it was going to be a problem?

I would think they've considered this before putting out on the market.
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Quote by scott john
The impedance is matched at 16 ohms, I don't think there should be a problem.


Had you been using an SS amp that was rated at 50W at 8 ohms, then yes, it would run at 25 at 16 ohms. Which is why most SS amps dont even have an impedance selector, they just have a warning that says use this much minimum. But a 50W tube amp will provide 50W no matter what impedance you select. Also, i see youre setting your OT at 16 on an 8 ohm cab.

Youre lucky it didnt just blow up

Guitar speakers are rated conservatively to deal with tube amps providing more watts when they break up, but a 25W speaker can only manage maybe 50 at most before it blows. And a 50W amp will probably go well beyond 50, more like 70-90 if you crank it.


EDIT 2: Never mind, I re checked the pic. Its a 16 ohm cab, youre safe on that front. But the speaker is very likely going to blow when you crank the amp.
Its a kaboom just waiting to happen.

I guess youre supposed to get two of those 112 cabs in a package rather than just one.
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#11
derp.

didn't see that coming.

fender should have though.

congrats, i thought channel 1 was decent as well.
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Quote by GS LEAD 5



EDIT 2: Never mind, I re checked the pic. Its a 16 ohm cab, youre safe on that front. But the speaker is very likely going to blow when you crank the amp.
Its a kaboom just waiting to happen.

I guess youre supposed to get two of those 112 cabs in a package rather than just one.




I probably won't be cranking it anytime in the next year or so. I've only turned the volume knob up to 9 o'clock with the speaker being used. I went to 1 with the headphone jack.

I have the gold coverage warranty from MF, so we'll see if she holds up, if not I'll send her back.
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#13
I decided to call Fender and get the scoop. They told me it's actually rated at 60W and they've done extensive testing to make sure it was going to be okay. Apparently, Ed used the same setup in the studio for the album. I'm satisfied.
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#15
Nice. Is the shared EQ for channel 1 and 2 bugging you at all? Haven't managed to track one down yet but that seems like it would bug the shit out of me.
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#16
Quote by mmolteratx
Nice. Is the shared EQ for channel 1 and 2 bugging you at all? Haven't managed to track one down yet but that seems like it would bug the shit out of me.


Yeah, at lower volumes they're not compatible. I'll find out more this weekend when the wife and son go out of town.
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#17
very nice
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#18
Thats awesome. If they had made the 50 watter a normal size and had the gain shared on channels 2 and 3, i would've bought this straight away. HNAD
#19
HNAD


Cool amp. I have not seen one to try yet but it is on my list.

I'm glad you contacted Fender to get the scoop. That is odd though wouldn't you say? What speaker does it have in it? Goofy Fender. So Ed's didn't blow up so it is OK for everyone else?

The new album sounds great though
#20
A metal amp by Fender just seems so wrong don't you think? Not that that this is a bad thing by amy means. They've failed so miserably modifying their normal amps to produce any preamp distortion that didn't sound total crap. It's like the guys that designed the HRD didn't know what they were doing.
This is the way they should be doing it. Start with a design that works and have it vetted by somebody that understands distortion. I think these things are a step in the right direction. They should concentrate on the idea. Ones labelled Fender should be their clean amps EVH are their dirty amps. I approve. It would be playing to their strengths. Lets face it, if the HRD didn't try to have a dirt channel nobody would have a bad word to say about them. Drop the HRD, make Twins and EVH's. Sounds like a winning plan to me.
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#23
Quote by Cathbard
A metal amp by Fender just seems so wrong don't you think? Not that that this is a bad thing by amy means. They've failed so miserably modifying their normal amps to produce any preamp distortion that didn't sound total crap. It's like the guys that designed the HRD didn't know what they were doing.
This is the way they should be doing it. Start with a design that works and have it vetted by somebody that understands distortion. I think these things are a step in the right direction. They should concentrate on the idea. Ones labelled Fender should be their clean amps EVH are their dirty amps. I approve. It would be playing to their strengths. Lets face it, if the HRD didn't try to have a dirt channel nobody would have a bad word to say about them. Drop the HRD, make Twins and EVH's. Sounds like a winning plan to me.

yeah, makes perfect sense to me....i've been saying that since the 5153 was first announced which was what 3 or 4 years ago? I know Eddie went to Fender Custom Shop to have his Frankenstrat Relic made but I never would have guessed that Fender would have been the go to amp maker for his high gain sig amp after leaving Peavey.
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Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
yeah, makes perfect sense to me....i've been saying that since the 5153 was first announced which was what 3 or 4 years ago? I know Eddie went to Fender Custom Shop to have his Frankenstrat Relic made but I never would have guessed that Fender would have been the go to amp maker for his high gain sig amp after leaving Peavey.


Yeah, a bit strange, but in the 80s he was using fender amps for a brief period live. I guess the experience stuck with him. To Cath, I am anxious to see what the machete sounds like in person, hopefully it is at least average, it would be nice to see fender successfully break into the metal world with a non-sig amp. oh, btw ts, HNAD! good looking amp
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#26
I'm not holding my breath over the Machette. Any company that could unleash the HRD's dirt channel onto the world doesn't inspire confidence. I don't know how anybody at Fender could have listened to a HRD and thought, "yeah, that's the sound we want - irritating enough to hurt your teeth."
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#27
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I have a HRD and I really like it. But man...I can't listen to the overdrive channel for very long. With the gain super low it sounds kinda cool, but any higher and I'm like WUUUUUUUT
Originally posted by primusfan
When you crank up the gain to 10 and switch to the lead channel, it actually sounds like you are unjustifiably bombing an innocent foreign land.


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#28
Quote by ibanezguitars44
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I have a HRD and I really like it. But man...I can't listen to the overdrive channel for very long. With the gain super low it sounds kinda cool, but any higher and I'm like WUUUUUUUT

Mod it.
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Quote by Cathbard
I'm not holding my breath over the Machette. Any company that could unleash the HRD's dirt channel onto the world doesn't inspire confidence. I don't know how anybody at Fender could have listened to a HRD and thought, "yeah, that's the sound we want - irritating enough to hurt your teeth."


Eh, I'll give em a mulligan on the HRD. I really am hoping for the machete, I'm not even looking for rectifier gain, just something along the lines of a peavey vtm, just enough gain to play some maiden. But, I have a feeling that it will end up much like the HRD, except without the saving grace of a good clean
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#30
Quote by Cathbard
Mod it.


Hopefully I can mod it into some money and buy a different amp O_o
Originally posted by primusfan
When you crank up the gain to 10 and switch to the lead channel, it actually sounds like you are unjustifiably bombing an innocent foreign land.


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Quote by ibanezguitars44
Hopefully I can mod it into some money and buy a different amp O_o

That is another viable plan, sure.
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#32
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
HNAD


Cool amp. I have not seen one to try yet but it is on my list.

I'm glad you contacted Fender to get the scoop. That is odd though wouldn't you say? What speaker does it have in it? Goofy Fender. So Ed's didn't blow up so it is OK for everyone else?

The new album sounds great though


Thanks, Celestion G12H 30W is the speaker. The guy at Fender told me they rate these conservatively, so it's actual rating is 60W. Wouldn't make much sense from a business stand point to send out a bunch of speaker that could blow out with the recommended amp. We'll see what happens.
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#33
I know this is marketed as a metal amp but are you able to get a passable blues tone from channel 1 or 2 then set channel 3 as your metal tone? Thanks!
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Quote by scott john
Thanks, Celestion G12H 30W is the speaker. The guy at Fender told me they rate these conservatively, so it's actual rating is 60W. Wouldn't make much sense from a business stand point to send out a bunch of speaker that could blow out with the recommended amp. We'll see what happens.

sweet. i've been stressing about running mine alone with my 50 watter.
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I'm guessing that there'l be some speaker breakup though, yes?
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#36
ok.. seeing this amp gave me a mild stiffy... i like the look of it and how everything is laid out .. never been crazy about white tolex though
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#37
^ it comes in black too.

Quote by Cathbard
I'm guessing that there'l be some speaker breakup though, yes?

probably if pushed too hard. i bet there is a sweet spot at a decent enough volume.
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Quote by gregs1020
^ it comes in black too.


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#39
White is the worst colour there is for a gigging muso. I see white amps and immediately think, "hmmm, haven't lugged many amps around to gigs in trucks much have we?"


White may look good new and be ok if kept in your home but do a few gigs and they start to look like crap real fast.
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#40
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Quote by scott john
Thanks, Celestion G12H 30W is the speaker. The guy at Fender told me they rate these conservatively, so it's actual rating is 60W. Wouldn't make much sense from a business stand point to send out a bunch of speaker that could blow out with the recommended amp. We'll see what happens.

Interesting.

I had that G12H30 paired up with a Classic Lead 80 and my cab had a blended wattage of 55 watts. Both Dave at Avatar and Scott at Splawn said that I am just clearing the wattage threshold (safely) for a 50w amp.

Not saying you are wrong or will have a problem just throwing my scenario out there. Generally I would say that it sounds like a good choice for that amp tonally. They should have made a vertical 2x12
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