#1
So yeah i've had an ibanez with a trem on for a while now and i'm pretty sure the nuts for locking it in at the headstock aren't really tightening that much (not locking it properly) because when i go to tighten them the allen key slips and won't tighten any more. After playing around a bit with the trem it goes stupidly out of tune which kind of tells me it's not locked properly.

I've replaced them and the same thing again the allen key slips and won't tighten any more.

TL.DR : Locking nuts won't tighten / allen keys slip.

so whats going wrong? is it me trying to tighten it too much or poor quality locking nuts?
#2
sounds like you have the wrong allen wrench.
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#3
Quote by roaddawg07
sounds like you have the wrong allen wrench.


i've been using the one that came with the guitar! :L
#6
Quote by poppameth
Floyd style nuts and trems usually comes with multiple wrenches. Are you sure you have the correct one?


yeah.
#7
Could be stripped threads then.
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#8
Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
Could be stripped threads then.



More likely stripped heads in the cap screws.

OP, can you can a GOOD picture of the locking nut screws from the top. If the allen slips, it's likely that they are rounded out and you need new screws. Pretty minor problem.

It's also possible that you are rotating the inserts in the neck, and again that's a minor fix (Remove, wood glue, reinsert, wait...)
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#10
When you say the allen wrench slips.. do you mean the screw sits in place but the allen wrench can still spin? Or is the entire screw still spinning with the wrench?

You've either got stripped heads on the screws, in which you would replace them. They're cheap, don't worry.

Or the inserts are spinning like a previous poster mentioned.
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#11
the screws themselves are staying in place and the allen key can move round, i pretty much figured it was stripped heads on the screws but the thing is i've already replace one set and it did the same pretty much straight away.
#12
Sounds like you're tightening them down wayyyyyyyyy too hard then. Or you're using the wrong size key for the new screws , it shouldn't wiggle at all when you have the right wrench for that particular screw.
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#13
Quote by bennej1
the screws themselves are staying in place and the allen key can move round, i pretty much figured it was stripped heads on the screws but the thing is i've already replace one set and it did the same pretty much straight away.


In order of likelihood, you're using the wrong size allen key, using FAR too much force, your replacements were pot metal junk, and/or your string blocks are grooved...
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#15
if you've already replaced a set of screws and now are about to do so again, perhaps you should revise your methods of tightening and loosening the screws? make sure your wrench is a tight fit in the screw head, make sure that you stop when the screw resists, don't turn past that point. and make sure the wrench is in pristine shape, if it is rounded it could also wear down the screw head.