#1
Joined the forum to get some expert opinions...

I'm thinking of selling my Epiphone Les Paul Studio and picking up a Dot Studio. Love the LP, but I'd like a little more of a jazz box at this point.

My real question: Is there a real difference between the two in terms of quality? The LP still retails for ~350, whereas the Dot is ~270 (at least for the worn brown finish, which is what I'd get; the other finishes might add a few bucks). Is this because the LP is made better, or are you just paying for the name?

I haven't had problems with any Epiphones, and I'm not really looking for other suggestions; I'd just like to know if it's a decent trade-in.

Thanks a lot.
#2
The Dot Studio plays and sounds better than every epiphone les paul I've ever played under 800 bucks. I'm not exaggerating, that's just my experience. I've played 3 dot studios and owned the 3rd, all 3 played equally well. It's held up well after gigging it nearly weekly since the day I bought it.
I'd say go for it.
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#3
The Dot Studio is cheaper primarily because they don't bother putting a gloss top coat on it, there's no binding, simpler controls and no inlays. The actual build quality is the same; they're made in the same factory by the same people, no reason to believe one will actually play better than the other.
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#4
There is binding, it's just 1-ply black, and none in the f-holes or the neck.
And I think the reason why I feel like it does play better is, it's light, and it's got a d-shaped neck,
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#5
I'm assuming all the electronics are the same? I know some people don't like Epiphones electronics, but like I said, I haven't experienced any problems with them.
#6
The pickups seem hotter in the dot. Maybe it's the SH resonance that makes me think that.
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#7
Quote by evhbrianmay
The pickups seem hotter in the dot. Maybe it's the SH resonance that makes me think that.

Forgive me, I don't know all the terminology. I've been playing guitar for a pretty long time now and I'd probably know exactly what you mean if I heard it, but what do you mean by "hotter" and SH?

Don't mean to be a serious noob here, but I'm completely self-taught. I could definitely stand to learn a few things.
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#8
The actual build quality is the same; they're made in the same factory by the same people, no reason to believe one will actually play better than the other.(Invalid img)
#9
I've played both and I think the LP is the better guitar due to the Grover tuners and the inlays on the neck. The Dot doesn't stay in tune very well .
#10
Quote by jeffo46
I've played both and I think the LP is the better guitar due to the Grover tuners and the inlays on the neck. The Dot doesn't stay in tune very well .

Weird, I feel like the Grovers go out of tune all the time. I guess I bend a lot, but not any inordinate amount.
#11
Quote by sanders3
Weird, I feel like the Grovers go out of tune all the time. I guess I bend a lot, but not any inordinate amount.


It's probably the nut, not the tuners. Cheap guitars have crappy plastic nuts. I know that the strings bind in the nuts of both my guitars (haven't gotten around to replacing them yet!).
#12
I meant semi-hollow by SH. And hotter, hotter pickups, more drive/less clarity (but not in a bad way).
A Graph tech nut is like 12 bucks, and will solve the tuning problems.
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#13
Or if you're cheap/lazy, just pencil your nut
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#14
The dot studio is inferior technically to the normal dot, but I'd reccomend you look at the ibanez artcore series, I was sold on the dot until I discovered those.
#15
Quote by Makko Mace
The dot studio is inferior technically to the normal dot, but I'd reccomend you look at the ibanez artcore series, I was sold on the dot until I discovered those.


Technically, yes. I used to own an Artcore AS73 in turquoise with a bigsby. Good guitar, but I prefer the satin finish (especially on the neck) on my dot studio to the gloss of Artcore. Both are solid (and by solid I mean semi-hollow) choices.

But the artcore will run you about $100 more than the dot studio last time I checked.

The gretsch junior jet is also in your price range.
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#16
Quote by evhbrianmay
I meant semi-hollow by SH. And hotter, hotter pickups, more drive/less clarity (but not in a bad way).
A Graph tech nut is like 12 bucks, and will solve the tuning problems.

Ah, got it.

And I actually went and picked up a Graph Tech nut, I guess I'll be installing that as a quick fix. Thanks.
#18
I actually prefer the epi's to the ibby's.

And glad I could help.
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#19
Final stupid question:

Now I'm actually considering just upping my budget the $400. Is the Epiphone ES-339 (it looks like a new model) basically the same as a Dot? Is it just a smaller body, because I think that would be a pretty good next step from this LP.
Last edited by sanders3 at Feb 17, 2012,