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#161
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Time travel is impossible because time in itself doesn't truly exist. It is a concept made by man to understand the way of the world and to organize how daily events would pan out according to the weather and light.
Days are just the world turning and years are just the world orbiting the sun. A day is not a factor of time but a calculation of how the world functions. Time is only an invention.
Is time travel possible in space? Possibly. On earth? I doubt it.

According to special relativity moving clocks run slow (which has been confirmed by experiment). So, what exactly is this non-existent thing that varies with velocity?
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#163
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You say this like you know that time travel would work on a molecular level, and not a base energy level.


It's the easier of the two options. The transfer of base energy adds several additional, equally currently impossible, steps to the equation.
#164
demolecularisation and remolecularisation: Just fancy words for saying that's it's impossible to break apart into molecules and then put them back together.

Time travel is a measurement from one period to the other. Saying you can make it go backwards is like saying you can turn your fat into negative numbers.

If time travel is possible, I don't see how you would move from the future to the past retaining the information you already know. Like, if you went back in time at the age of 21, and returned in time at age 6, you'd be age 6 with the same brain, same thoughts, and same memories you'd have when you were that age. You'd be completely oblivious from moving in time.
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#165
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demolecularisation and remolecularisation: Just fancy words for saying that's it's impossible to break apart into molecules and then put them back together.


Yeah...
#166
So far I've traveled 53 years into the future.
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#167
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I'd like to introduce you to my friend causality.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYfZ1JLMiM

"Complex denominator in the causality ratio!"


Yeah, I couldn't find quite the right video.
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#168
Going forward; Going really fast!

Going back; Bending/'folding' Space-Time.

All work, in theory.
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#169
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Or how about if you go back into time and kill Hitler,when he was a baby?


I remember Albert Einstein trying to mess with the past Hitler, it ended up with the Soviets invading Europe. How do you like that now?!
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Wat.
#170
This thread on the front page? My time-machine worked!
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#171
I guess theads are like time capsules.

But, to the TS...

No proof of time travel?

"It depends how you look at the evidence." ,
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#172
WHAT IF!

There is such a thing as multi universes!


Like



Like...

What if there were really a bunch of futuristic us's, who made Gods of this world and of future tech and...

What if they all decided to go home and this is the timeline they left and they're 'our creators/Gods' doing whatever, where ever, when ever in whatever history they created wherever.
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look nigga, if you're chillin with 5 bros and 2 hos, you're gonna wanna pay attention to all of em equally. not moon over the hos forever and laugh at every shitty thing they say and just stare at them all night, like some of my mates do.
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#173
Quote by Axelfox
Or how about if you go back into time and kill Hitler,when he was a baby?


What did Hitler ever do to you m8?
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#174
If you're going to do something in the future like travel back to the past, then; If you're going to do it and having already been and done it, are you doing it now?

And if you keep on doing it -- again and again and again, I guess I'll add; Then what happens?

I guess you just live in the now, huh?
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look nigga, if you're chillin with 5 bros and 2 hos, you're gonna wanna pay attention to all of em equally. not moon over the hos forever and laugh at every shitty thing they say and just stare at them all night, like some of my mates do.
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#175
>Make claim that time travel is impossible
>Make no scientific argument

I dun get OP
#176
Quote by Jostry
Time travel is impossible

That can't be right.
We are constantly travelling forwards in time, if we didn't, we wouldn't age and we would be stuck in the same continuous moment of the same continuous day for ever. (If 'for ever' is a term we could still technicaly use if we could no longer travel forwards in time)
#178
What if the guy who invented it was killed by its first user and the user only used it to win the lottery and then destroyed it. It could still theoreticly exist if the guy never really used it.
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#179
The Grandfather Paradox rules out parallel timelines; So I'd ignore it.

So I'm saying, go back in time, waste your young Grandfather, and if you can, do what ever the Hell you want from there; the Dead Grandfather/No you timeline is set and the one that created you must still be there, so there'll be at least two universes; then.
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#180
I think jesus maybe time traveled once , this created Christianity which stunted human development for so long that once time travel was invented , they knew not to come back in time or risk erasing themselves or altering history.

BOOM.
#181
But why would they let Jesus go back in time in the future if they know what devastating consequences it will have for human development? Somebody'd by like: "Hell naw, Jeebus! Getcho ass away from the damn DeLorean, son"
#183
*No scientific knowledge whatsoever in this post*

I feel like in order to travel somewhere, it needs to physically exist, i.e I'm going to California, another place on this Earth. I can't think of how we could travel back in time because it doesn't exist any more or less than we currently exist - it's all one string - I can't think of one week ago as a "place" that I can go. In order to go back I feel like it would have to be being recorded, almost like a movie that you rewind, otherwise what reference is there to go back to?

Man, I wish I knew more about this shit!
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#184
Quote by Jostry
That would mean we don't really have free will and everything we do is pre planned and is destined to happen.

Yeah man
cos
like
if the material world has to follow strict laws (Newtonian Model) then all of everything in the universe is predictable, if we were given all the variables needed to make the calculation

Think of a branch falling in a river, and all the information you'd need to predict where the branch is X seconds into the future, its the same thing but with matter on a large scale

and if we're part of the universe, which we are, then why are we exempt from that calculation?

'consciousness' is a product of two things, internal and external factors, genes and enviroment. This just means that there are a lot more variables to consider in regards to implying the caclulation upon ourselves.

I mean, we're only one of few species who even have a concept of self. This doesn't mean that other animals don't know that they exist, it means we tell ourselves that we're separate from everything.

Free will is bullshit.
You don't even exist so the concept of a 'choice' is ridic.


OT: We could only travel as far back as to when the first wormhole was created. Time is a measurement, and doesn't really exist either. If we could move up a dimensional plane to the 4d, we'd experience a sense of 'timelessness' in that all events that have and will happen will happen simultaneously, as opposed to feeling the effects of the flow of time here ont 3d. We can only go as far back as the first wormhole because it's the first entry point to that higher plane.

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*No scientific knowledge whatsoever in this post*

I feel like in order to travel somewhere, it needs to physically exist, i.e I'm going to California, another place on this Earth. I can't think of how we could travel back in time because it doesn't exist any more or less than we currently exist - it's all one string - I can't think of one week ago as a "place" that I can go. In order to go back I feel like it would have to be being recorded, almost like a movie that you rewind, otherwise what reference is there to go back to?

Man, I wish I knew more about this shit!

Aye, its less of a 'place' and more of a distance. It's the equivalent of me saying 'I'm gong to travel 5miles North' i.e. 'I'm going to travel 5min Past'. It isn't that '5 miles' doesn't physically exist, but its a unit of measurement to travel the physical plane. Time traveling, in some interpretations, is the act of 'rewinding' all of the physical plane.


But really I only quoted you cos I wanted to say I liked your sig and that my favourite song on that album is Ritual Knife.
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#186
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#187
Quote by Jostry
If it were possible we would be having visits from our future selves.


I read this about 5 years ago on a bubble gum wrapper for ****sake!!!Please tell us about shit that's relevant!
I'm not saying not to trust the internet, but there's an alarming discrepancy between the number of iPads I've won & the number of iPads I own.
#188
Quote by KiLLSWiTCH-KnoT
But really I only quoted you cos I wanted to say I liked your sig and that my favourite song on that album is Ritual Knife.


Haha, Ya that album is quite awesome. It's funny because your avatar is sweet... Travis Bickle is a super BADass!

OT: I'v started trying to read up on this stuff but my head is spinning Just can't grasp time travel

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#190
Well I don't know if you are talking about going forward or backward in time. If you mean forward, then Einstein's theory says that this is possible. Two observers who are both 20 years of age synchronize their watches. One steps into a space ship and travels away at the speed of light. Then comes back to the Earth. According to this fellow's watch he has only been gone a couple of days. He is still 20 years old. But the other fellow is now a 70 year old man and it is now 7 decades in the future. So going forward is possible according to the Theory of Relativity.

But going backwards is a little more difficult. The only way that this would work would be if there was the possibility of other dimensions and alternate realities. Then you could go back and the possibility of "screwing something up so badly that YOU no longer exist" would be less likely. But if there is only one plane of existence, then going back in time would be extremely risky.

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#191
Wait what? But wouldn't you have to take into account how far he travels? If both guys had their watches synchronized and one travels from one side of a room to the other at the speed of light then he wouldn't have gone into the future.
#192
There's one fundamental thing I don't understand about the whole time thing.

Everywhere I read about it, people talk about time as though it were a force of some sort. As though "time" is pushing us forward and changing things as it goes. And that time slows at incredibly high speeds relative to things moving at slower speeds and all that jazz.

BUT...

Why is it time that's slowing down? I reckon people think of it this way because of the way we think of time as a force. Is it not more intuitive to think that time is just the name we give to change? The universe is constantly in motion at an atomic level after all. So then is it not easier to think that when an object speeds up, it's just the physical motion of the particles that compose that object that's slowing?

Going back to the astronaut analogy then, the guy in the shuttle ages ten years and as far as he knows, ten years pass inside his shuttle but a hundred years pass back on earth. But instead of thinking that there's some sort of warping of "time" causing this effect, is it not simpler to think that every particle is physically moving slower because of the effects of the insane speeds? This would mean he would age slower, and that his thought processes would be slower as well. So although it seems to him that ten years have passed in one place and a hundred in another, it's really just been a hundred years everywhere?


EDIT:

To try and add another example, think of how particles physically move slower when they're colder and have less energy. Think of a clock that works by measuring the speed at which particles move. Cool one system down and and heat one system up and you'll end up with a situation where it will appear as though time has slowed down in one instance and sped up in another.
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#193
^Makes sense to me. - but that still allows for time "travel" into the future. But it's only time travel in the same way that it would be if you could be cryogenically frozen and then reanimated 500 years in the future.

Time travel (backwards) is impossible. But it's fun to imagine. I just can't stand stupid movies that don't think shit through properly.
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#194
Ancient Aliens is so ****ing ******ed excusez mon français!

It's just proof of time travel that they're all going is old and we're

treborillusion (sarcastic)
reinventing it


Try inventing it.

If we are actually deconstructing fallen UFO tech who, believers of the Sci-Fi occult scene would say it's little green men THAT ****ING TURNED OUT TO BE FILMED IN A ****ING FLAT IN CAMDEN, WTF!?
Roswell my ARSE.

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instead us of from, in not the too distant future?
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#195
Time isn't an entity. Its the lack of an entity. Therefore, how can we travel through something that doesn't exist?
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#196
Hey, I know you, TS. You're that one guy who thought Romney was gonna win who's in that other guy's sig.

Haha.

That is all I have to contribute to this thread.
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#197
Quote by CaptainCanti
Time isn't an entity. Its the lack of an entity. Therefore, how can we travel through something that doesn't exist?

True but...


Where's your proof there is no time but of us measuring with calenders?
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#198
This is the fabric of time and space on a 2D plane representing our 3 dimensional world in time

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/


see you create a worm hole...

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

And create another wormhole

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

And then you travel through space and time.

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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#199
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This is the fabric of time and space on a 2D plane representing our 3 dimensional world in time

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/


see you create a worm hole...

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

And create another wormhole

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

And then you travel through space and time.

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

That's just crazy enough to work, and if we synthesize it, we could only travel back to when we made the 1st worm hole.....


We'd have to wait, of course... For time to pass 'naturally' until we build the 2nd wormhole but, what if we build the 1st wormhole and get taken 'unnaturally' forward to build the 2nd wormhole?

We as in mankind we, not we as in 'us' we, I haven't even met you.
To my knowledge.
LOL UserName though.
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#200
ITT: dumbasses.
You who build these altars now

To sacrifice these children
You must not do it anymore