#1
So, I recently got into a lot of progressive metal/rock. Been scouring the net for a few days looking up obscure bands and whatnot. It seems to me that Progressive music is widely regarded amongst prog listeners as "thinking man's music" or music for the intelligent.

Now I'm not one to believe something so naive as musical tastes dictating intelligence. I just can't see how one could make the correlation of something completely subjective having a direct effect on something that is totally objective.

What do you think Pit?

Does it make you dumb to like listening to predictable music?

Does it make you smart to listen to music that is more complex?

Do you think there is even a slight correlation between the two?

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#2
I think correlations are made up and applied to a huge variety of situations.

You're not smarter because you listen to more complex music, nor are you dumber because you don't.
#3
Genres do not determine the intelligence of the music. The thought put behind the song makes it intelligent. You can have intelligent rap and intelligent electronic music which can be considered "thinking mans" music just as you have intelligent prog metal. You also have prog metal that's dumb as shit.
#4
I'm much better off being dumb and not listening to progressive music and being a prick about it.
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#5
I think someone who listens to, enjoys, and can evaluate the musicianship behind (for example) Opeth, Dream Theater or Pink Floyd will probably be someone who is more intelligent than someone who listens to The Black Eyed Peas because it has sick beats.
#7
It just seems to me that a lot of these guys are really pretentious about it. I imagine they walk around and when they see a girl listening to Katy Perry or something they get all smug like, "...You're listening to... That?"

I don't really see the need.

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#8
And also, I thought we all agreed that classical is smarty pants music, prog people need to back the **** off from trying to get that title.
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#9
I think you will probably find a higher amount of intelligent classical listeners than scene metal listeners.

So yes; to a certain degree.
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#11
Complex music, predictable music, formulaic music; it doesn't matter. What makes you dumb is when you stop thinking about them.
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#13
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Honestly there isn't really a correlation. I know plenty of not so intelligent people who listen to prog and a lot of very intelligent people who listen to pop.
#15
No, and in fact thinking you're intelligent for listening to 'complex' music simply means you're a slave to the dunning-kruger effect, and not the 'smart people are smart enough to know they aren't really that smart' side.
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#16
yup, no correlation. i bet there's plenty of highly intelligent people who don't even listen to music and plenty of idiots who listen to highly complex music and can play highly complex music.
#17
I'm listening to Enter Shikari.

It downt meyn Oi towk loik dis an say "Mate what the fuck are you on about?" all the time.
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#19
You can be intelligent and not be interested in music. Using the same logic, you can love music and not be overly smart. Your level of intelligence need not dictate the type of music you like; nor does the type of music you like imply how intelligent you are.

Having said that, I suppose if you're intelligent you're more willing to accept and listen to every genre, and then make your own decision as to whether you like it or not.

People who dismiss a type of genre because they don't like it are the only people who I would classify as 'dumb'.
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You can be intelligent and not be interested in music. Using the same logic, you can love music and not be overly smart. Your level of intelligence need not dictate the type of music you like; nor does the type of music you like imply how intelligent you are.

Having said that, I suppose if you're intelligent you're more willing to accept and listen to every genre, and then make your own decision as to whether you like it or not.

People who dismiss a type of genre because they don't like it are the only people who I would classify as 'dumb'.

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Where did I lose you? I meant that if your intelligent, you wouldn't be so naive as to disregard a genre's quality just because you don't like it: you accept that it's your opinion, and others can draw their own.

Maybe I didn't phrase it too well.
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I think someone who listens to, enjoys, and can evaluate the musicianship behind (for example) Opeth, Dream Theater or Pink Floyd will probably be someone who is more intelligent than someone who listens to The Black Eyed Peas because it has sick beats.


i disagree, you could just as easily compare someone who likes hip-hop for its intelligent lyricism and interesting rhythmic patterns to someone who likes Dream Theatre for it's "killer riffs and shit, brah".

I think if theres any correlation it would just be that more intelligent people are open to new and different things where as the 'dumb' are more close-minded. The latter kind of person might have just casually listened to pop radio most of the time so when confronted with jazz their more likely to reject its use of brass and lack of vocals as 'weird'. That's as far as this correlation goes IMO.
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#24
I forgot to mention that pretty much the smartest person I know doesn't even listen to music.
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No, and in fact thinking you're intelligent for listening to 'complex' music simply means you're a slave to the dunning-kruger effect, and not the 'smart people are smart enough to know they aren't really that smart' side.

And this.

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Where did I lose you? I meant that if your intelligent, you wouldn't be so naive as to disregard a genre's quality just because you don't like it: you accept that it's your opinion, and others can draw their own.

Maybe I didn't phrase it too well.

oh, ok. i though you went and contradicted yourself in the last bit. i catch yer drift now.