#1
whats the difference between a ts9 and a ts808? and which one is better?
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TS808 is smoother than the TS-9.
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There's very little audible difference. I'd just go for the TS9.
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Real question is whats the difference between keeley modded and stock?
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#6
keeley modded?? whats that?
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The 808 apparently has a bigger bottom end.
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#8
Robert Keeley makes pedals does mods, hence Keeley modded. As for the difference, I feel like a TS808 voiced pedal is smoother than a TS9, but it only makes as much difference as you feel it does. The same GENERAL voicing and a mid hump and bass cut is there in either pedal.
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#9
any other suggestions then for an OD or distortion pedal??
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there's a ton of options, everyone who posts after you ask that will give you 4 different pedals than the next person, and it starts to become pretty overwhelming, and to be honest most pedals are just someone's version of a standard circuit board that is found in grandfather pedals like the TS9. I support TS9s a lot, i think they are great, and modded TS9s are great too, besides keeley theres also Analogman who I prefer over keeley, but to each his own.

As far as other "grandfather pedals"...the fulltone OCD is among the ranks as well, really thick and creamy sounding gain, it borderlines a british sound but only to an extent. I believe the Boss OD pedal is a TS9 clone, but I might be mistaken, maybe someone will clear that up.

The best thing to do with OD pedals is to just go and try them out.
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there's a big article on the tubescreamer on geofex.com
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#12
I've done the Keeley mods on mine. The one that makes the biggest difference is changing the 0.047uF cap to a 0.1uF one. It restores some of the bass. I've never been a great fan of the way a TS cuts out all your bass.
As for the difference between the TS808 and the TS9 - two resistors. If you can hear the difference after swapping those out you have better ears than me.
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maybe hold off on registering on tgp for a while, cath
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But seriously, look at the difference in values and where they are in the circuit. How could they make much difference? You are talking about break points beyond human hearing. Hell, it's beyond canine hearing.
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yeah i know
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#18
TS9 cuts alot of low end, that some might not like.

It's a matter of taste, you have to find out for yourself what you like.
#19
so does an 808
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so does an 808

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#22
that 0.047 cap is the same in both models. that's the one you change if you want more bass.

unless you have tgp ears
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#23
808 supposedly has a bigger mid hump, which is better for boosting.

They're both ridiculously overpriced for what they are. For a third of the price of the TS9 you can get a TS7, which is basically (again), the same exact pedal, and it has two modes.

For around the price of a TS9, you can get better alternatives like a Way Huge Green Rhino. or an MXR GT-OD.

There's also the Boss SD-1 that's a bit different, but still good.
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#24
None of them have a big mid hump, they have a bass cut. They both cut the bass the same amount. Any difference you hear is down to tolerance of components. You are just as likely to hear as much difference between two different 808's as between an 808 and a 9.

The DS-1 is only good if you mod them, otherwise it's a box of bees.
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And after you mod them they're a box of 'killer bees'. I've never listened to an 808, just a TS-7, TS-9, and TS-9DX. The DX seems a little more 'bassy' to my ears, but most people tell me I'm deaf. So is the difference between a 9 and a 9DX essentially like having a 9 modded?
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And after you mod them they're a box of 'killer bees'. I've never listened to an 808, just a TS-7, TS-9, and TS-9DX. The DX seems a little more 'bassy' to my ears, but most people tell me I'm deaf. So is the difference between a 9 and a 9DX essentially like having a 9 modded?
As far as the extra modes on the DX, it's WAY more bassy. That's pretty much the idea. I use it specifically as a boost for when I also want a really fat and compressed lead tone. I can't speak for the main tubescreamer setting on it in comparison to a ts9 though as I haven't played them side by side in years.
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The DS-1 is only good if you mod them, otherwise it's a box of bees.


i think he means the sd1. which is (more or less) an asymmetrically clipped tubescreamer. sounds a bit edgier than a ts, though.
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Oh ok. Yeah the SD-1 is totally useable. In many ways I actually prefer them to a tubescreamer, especially for lead.
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only thing that scares me about them is they have a bit of a rep for the signal bleeding into the bypass signal. which'd suck.
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#31
Well my SD-1 is built into my GP-8. No problems with that sort of thing in that.

Having said that, my pedalboard has a Livingstone overdrive on it which I think is a repackaged Daphon e10-OD and it sounds very very SD-1'ish. Not bad for a $20 Aldi pedal.
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#32
ah ok

and yeah i think i've heard several people say those daphons might be sd1 clones. i haven't tried it but the couple i do have had fine buffers.
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ah ok

and yeah i think i've heard several people say those daphons might be sd1 clones. i haven't tried it but the couple i do have had fine buffers.

Well if they are I guess my Livingstone is a clone of a clone.
I haven't bothered trying to trace out the circuit but it does sound a lot like an SD-1. If it isn't a clone I'd be pretty surprised.
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^

but yeah i'd guess so
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#36
why are people still arguing that they sound different?!
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