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Pffft, it's only a trade war - the most yellow-bellied of all wars.


dude... it's canada.
#4
ha lol that's only because we have the most oil. Obviously we're going to do whatever we can to make it more popular to buy. Either way, who cares if they say it's polluting, the entire oil industry from start to finish is polluting, so what's the difference? We'll sell it anyways to whoever wants to buy it. And if nobody wants to buy, then **** it, we'll keep it for ourselves, maybe we can actually have cheaper gas for once.
#5
Let us recolonize that little piece of shit. That will teach the poluting bastards.
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#6
I live here and even I laugh at the idea of Canada picking ANY fights on ANY front :p
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#7
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Darek Urbaniak, at Friends of the Earth Europe, which obtained the new documents, said: "These letters are further evidence of Canadian government and industry lobbying, which continuously undermines efforts to combat climate change. We find it unacceptable that the Canadian government now openly uses direct threats at the highest political levels to derail crucial EU climate legislation."


oh please what a bunch of complete pussies. it should be well known by now that nobody likes having their oil threatened. stupid europe.
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ha lol that's only because we have the most oil. Obviously we're going to do whatever we can to make it more popular to buy. Either way, who cares if they say it's polluting, the entire oil industry from start to finish is polluting, so what's the difference? We'll sell it anyways to whoever wants to buy it. And if nobody wants to buy, then **** it, we'll keep it for ourselves, maybe we can actually have cheaper gas for once.

You do know that tar sands are much more polluting than the other oil sources when you try to extract the oil from it right? Your country will become a industrial waste land. Be glad the EU saves your ass.
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#10
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Well we are the only country to ever defeat the American in a war, so at that rate, the EU should be easy pickings.


pffft you had help.
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oh please what a bunch of complete pussies. it should be well known by now that nobody likes having their oil threatened. stupid europe.

''Friends of the earth europe''

shit, watch out guys.

They might as well get UNICEF to join in and say that world hunger is caused by the big bad top governments. Followed by a quick reply of ''mhm, yeah that's nice hunny, now go and play with friends.."
#12
Quote by Neo Evil11
You do know that tar sands are much more polluting than the other oil sources when you try to extract the oil from it right? Your country will become a industrial waste land. Be glad the EU saves your ass.

You do know that it's all the same shit? Oil is oil and our world's problems mainly have to do with it? Plus the industry has come a very long way in finding ways to recycle waste material and re-using it and displacing less land. Don't start preaching bullshit when you come from the world's epicenter of oil tycoons and the environmental fiascos they cause.
#13
While my country has a tendency to make a fool out of itself at times, I wouldn't want to be living in an Alberta where we have no income from oil. Our entire economy would go straight down the shitter.
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While my country has a tendency to make a fool out of itself at times, I wouldn't want to be living in an Alberta where we have no income from oil. Our entire economy would go straight down the shitter.

Well you obviously get a fair size chunk of it. I get it's all federal but there has to be some provincial share that goes back to you. There's no way you guys have 0% tax for no reason.
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I would be so down to live in Alberta for economical reasons, but i would never ever ever ever move there for social reasons. I am however against this conflict for moral and political reasons.
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You do know that it's all the same shit? Oil is oil and our world's problems mainly have to do with it? Plus the industry has come a very long way in finding ways to recycle waste material and re-using it and displacing less land. Don't start preaching bullshit when you come from the world's epicenter of oil tycoons and the environmental fiascos they cause.


Or maybe our world's problems mainly have to do with the economic principle of scarcity. Oil issues are just a symptom. BTW, global climate is cyclical and even The Economist aknowledges that sun spot activity is the indendent variable for our temperature trends. Therefore, trying to control climate change is actually unnatural and totally contrary to environmentalist principles.

Don't be a sucker to those who profit from climate fearmongering.
#17
We should just give them some of our Internet money.
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Quote by Neo Evil11
You do know that tar sands are much more polluting than the other oil sources when you try to extract the oil from it right? Your country will become a industrial waste land. Be glad the EU saves your ass.

I want you to go get a map. Look at Canada, then look at where the tar sands are. I think our country is fine.
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We should just give them some of our Internet money.

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Quote by Neo Evil11
You do know that tar sands are much more polluting than the other oil sources when you try to extract the oil from it right? Your country will become a industrial waste land. Be glad the EU saves your ass.

The EU can barely save itself, so how does it plan to save us?

Industrial wasteland? Pfft, it's just Alberta buddy.

The EU should look at fixing its economy before worrying about the environment somewhere else.
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We should just give them some of our Internet money.

Although they could just be angry tooth decay stole there princess. Or maybe there prince failed to get the princess's arm up his ass.
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#23
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Although they could just be angry tooth decay stole there princess. Or maybe there prince failed to get the princess's arm up his ass.

Or they cancelled the show that was the only worthwile thing from Canada.
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#24
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Or they cancelled the show that was the only worthwile thing from Canada.
Damn butthurt mums.

The men are probably just angry that all the women are queefing. So they've decided to war.
#25
Quote by jetwash69
Or maybe our world's problems mainly have to do with the economic principle of scarcity. Oil issues are just a symptom. BTW, global climate is cyclical and even The Economist aknowledges that sun spot activity is the indendent variable for our temperature trends. Therefore, trying to control climate change is actually unnatural and totally contrary to environmentalist principles.

Don't be a sucker to those who profit from climate fearmongering.


Even if you were right (and you are, partially, but not completely) reducing pollution to the minimum possible consistent with economic reality is still a good idea.
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#26
The world is gonna take Canada's oil like taking candy from a baby. Silly Canadian sitting ducks lol.
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#27
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You do know that it's all the same shit? Oil is oil and our world's problems mainly have to do with it? Plus the industry has come a very long way in finding ways to recycle waste material and re-using it and displacing less land. Don't start preaching bullshit when you come from the world's epicenter of oil tycoons and the environmental fiascos they cause.


Wait wat? Where do you think I come from? And no oil is not oil in this case, it is not called tar sands for nothing.

Also at the people saying the Eu should fix their economies; the economies are just fine. Only some south European governments and their economies are in trouble.
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Or maybe our world's problems mainly have to do with the economic principle of scarcity. Oil issues are just a symptom. BTW, global climate is cyclical and even The Economist aknowledges that sun spot activity is the indendent variable for our temperature trends. Therefore, trying to control climate change is actually unnatural and totally contrary to environmentalist principles.

Don't be a sucker to those who profit from climate fearmongering.

Do you even think before you post? Oil issues are not a symptom of scarcity, they are scarcity. Climate change is cyclical yes, but we have changed the levels by adding so much CO2 what is happening now is unnnatural. Sun spot activity* =/= climate change, sun spot activity is in much shorter time periods. Controlling climate change is "unnatural" yes, as is quadrupling the CO2 levels on this planet.

Don't be a sucker.

*As far as we know of.
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#29
Mexico and Canada should fight to the death for the right to exist.

You, good sir, have not gone over to your friends house after a hard night of drinking to find 2 dudes passed out in the same room both holding their own flaccid cocks in hand, passed out, with porn on the tv.
#31
Oh Canada!!!!!
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#32
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We should just give them some of our Internet money.

This is exactly what I thought of.
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#33
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Do you even think before you post?


Actually, yes.

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Oil issues are not a symptom of scarcity, they are scarcity.


No, if we didn't have energy scarcity, then the oil issues wouldn't be issues. All the oil issues are merely symptoms of a larger problem.

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Climate change is cyclical yes, but we have changed the levels by adding so much CO2 what is happening now is unnnatural. Sun spot activity* =/= climate change, sun spot activity is in much shorter time periods. Controlling climate change is "unnatural" yes, as is quadrupling the CO2 levels on this planet.


You're buying into unproven theory. And that's charitible. Others call it downright lies. The CO2 levels are nowhere near what it would take to fulfill your allegations. As in they're 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999% too low to have that effect. So you'd have to quadruple the levels for a long freaking time have a true "greenhouse effect". I mean a long time in global terms, not from a human lifetime perspective. But in reality, that's not possible because there aren't enough carbon molecules on this planet to have that effect in our atmosphere. It's a matter of scale.

Have you considered that global temperatures follow ocean temperatures and those are controlled by suspot activity (not by anything that happens on Earth)? And that the thermodynamics involved have a buffering effect, which addresses your "sun spot activity is in much shorter time periods" argument.

It really seems as if you get all your information from activists instead of true science. BTW, there is a group of "scientists" now who have tapped into activist funding streams for their work. It usually doesn't take much analytical rigor to tell who they are when you read their documentation. I know that the energy industry has also funded research in this area and it's facinating how many of them take advantage of this fear to forward their own interests. They even turned Patrick Moore pro-nuke 5 years ago. You just gotta read each study on its own merit, have a solid educational foundation, and judge each document logically and without emotion.

So like you said, "Don't be a sucker."

I wish we'd spend half the money were wasting on the climate non-issue on real problems like food distribution, access to clean water, and disease research.

But it's always so much fun debating the matter because every one I've come accross in acedemia, industry, and yes, even on UG who carries the anthropogenic global warming torch comes accross like they are motivated by protecting their newfound income stream or they base their case on a few articles they read, fueled by emotion, without the education to see the big con that's really going on.

So no, I don't care if you change your mind. I think I'll quit now because this is getting too close to trolling. It was fun while it lasted though; take care.
#34
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I live here and even I laugh at the idea of Canada picking ANY fights on ANY front :p

Canada only picks fights when its Mother Britain has already picked a fight.
#35
You're buying into unproven theory. And that's charitible. Others call it downright lies.

Unproven theories? So me and my teachers have done research, but somehow our findings are not correct? Please tell me why?

The CO2 levels are nowhere near what it would take to fulfill your allegations. As in they're 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999% too low to have that effect. So you'd have to quadruple the levels for a long freaking time have a true "greenhouse effect". I mean a long time in global terms, not from a human lifetime perspective. But in reality, that's not possible because there aren't enough carbon molecules on this planet to have that effect in our atmosphere. It's a matter of scale.

Seriously? Where is your source? If there would be no greenhouse effect the temperature would be 33 degrees lower. CO2 causes a greenhouse effect, fact. So increasing the levels of CO2, which we did, there is no doubt about that, increases temperature. Surely there are decreasing returns to scale, but that doesn't matter. And yes there is enough CO2 in the earth to quadruple the levels, the ocean is a gigantic reservoir and when the temperature rises you get a positive feedback effect which means the oceans will release more CO2 (basic physics/chemistry).
http://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/ees/climate/lectures/radiation/

It really seems as if you get all your information from activists instead of true science. BTW, there is a group of "scientists" now who have tapped into activist funding streams for their work. It usually doesn't take much analytical rigor to tell who they are when you read their documentation. I know that the energy industry has also funded research in this area and it's facinating how many of them take advantage of this fear to forward their own interests. They even turned Patrick Moore pro-nuke 5 years ago. You just gotta read each study on its own merit, have a solid educational foundation, and judge each document logically and without emotion.

No I actually have a cum laude degree in Earth sciences in 2 months and know the people who have done the research and we know what knowledge is missing.


I wish we'd spend half the money were wasting on the climate non-issue on real problems like food distribution, access to clean water, and disease research.

Fine, although Climate change will decrease food and water supplies in some regions (which are the regions which have shortages now), so the issues are kinda correlated.

But it's always so much fun debating the matter because every one I've come accross in acedemia, industry, and yes, even on UG who carries the anthropogenic global warming torch comes accross like they are motivated by protecting their newfound income stream or they base their case on a few articles they read, fueled by emotion, without the education to see the big con that's really going on.

So no, I don't care if you change your mind. I think I'll quit now because this is getting too close to trolling. It was fun while it lasted though; take care.

You are trolling.
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#37
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Wait wat? Where do you think I come from? And no oil is not oil in this case, it is not called tar sands for nothing.

Also at the people saying the Eu should fix their economies; the economies are just fine. Only some south European governments and their economies are in trouble.

I'm referring to the overall oil industry. Tar sands, oil sands, all that crap, it's all the same when we're talking about the oil industry. I find it ironic that you people pop out of nowhere saying omgomg the oil sands cause so much pollution because of this and that while they tend to leave the rest of the oil industry alone. Like really, there was the Exxon-Valdez incident, the BP (which is a european(UK) company by the way *irony*) fiasco in the gulf, the constant bombings of pipelines in the middle-east which spew hundreds of tons of burnt oil shit in the air. But yet, you complain about this one thing, as if it's even remotely close to what all those other things are, or even comparable to them. It's the costly process of separating the sand from the oil which consumes a lot of energy and among many things causes land to be displaced. A process which is not nearly as bad as some other things out there, and not nearly as bad as some ****-ups done in the past and it's also a process which is constantly improving, it costs time and money, both of which any corporation would do anything to save. In this case saving both actually requires them to look at more green-oriented alternatives because there is no other way of thinking about it.
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Quote by Neo Evil11
Unproven theories? So me and my teachers have done research, but somehow our findings are not correct?



I don't know, are they?

Feel free to provide links to your research, conclusions and raw data and we can make our own decisions...

Otherwise you're just blowing smoke. (and CO2 laden smoke at that...)
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#39
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Canada only picks fights when its Mother Britain has already lost a fight.


And then sends the Canadians to finish the job they couldn't even dent.

History has proven that.
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Also, correlation =/= causation (even though sunspot activity isn't correlated very well with global temperatures, just thought I'd throw that out there)
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