Is it just me, or do people intentionally make GP tabs that sound like crap?

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#1
In my many years of downloading GP tabs, I've come across a lot of shitty tabs. For example, tabs with six guitars all panned to the left, all set to "distortion guitar" and only a bass on the right, so there's nothing but an incredibly loud warble on the left and a muffled bass on the right. Some tabs made with the RSE in mind have the guitars cranked to maximum volume with the EQ sliders all the way up and the "humanize" slider all the way up with the drums and bass all but muted.

Speaking of drums, there are the tabs that have multiple bass kicks (35 and 36 both for each bass kick) and the same for each snare (38 and 40) and cymbal as well (49 and 57) and closed hi-hats during all of the double bass parts when the song clearly has open hi-hats.

Then there are the tabs that are rated 5* that are incredibly incorrect. Go look at all of the Dream Theater - Metropolis pt I tabs and you'll see what I mean.

And, of course, the tabs with some or all of the tracks coloured white.

Don't get me wrong there are more amazing tabs than the god-awful ones, at least that I've seen, but some of the tabs you can find make me wonder exactly what was going on in the persons mind just before they submitted their tabs. I'm guessing it's something like, "Well, I have these tabs here that sound good, so let me just crank this and that and the other thing there and make someone work for good sounding tabs that make sense".

I don't know, I'm just bitching. Opinions?
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#2
Quote by Miseryfields

Speaking of drums, there are the tabs that have multiple bass kicks (35 and 36 both for each bass kick)



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#4
Sorry, what is this 35 and 36 you speak of?

The GP6 master-race use the score


But nah, I know what you mean - some GP tabs just sound like total ****.
#5
Quote by sam b
36 all the way dewd


This. 35 is for undesirables.
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#6
I do a lot of covers and I use Superior Drummer for all of my drums tracks. If it's 35 and 36 both at once, that's an easy enough fix to highlight one kick and remove all of them, but quite often, I've come across tabs where there are double 35's or 36's, which means I'll have to go through the GP track and delete one of them throughout the entire thing instead of just removing the whole kick track like when 35 and 36 are used. If you want a stronger beat, just set it to FF. It's easier on the people who want to use your tabs if they use a VSTi for their covers.
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#7
I cannot stand when people make all the parts have the black bar at the bottom. It makes it impossible to tell where you are if you wanna go back real quick. But that may only be a problem if using Tux Guitar.
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#8
Quote by Miseryfields
It's easier on the people who want to use your tabs if they use a VSTi for their covers.


Maybe they're doing it on purpose so creeps like you don't steal their work.
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#9
Quote by sam b
36 all the way dewd


They both sound the same to me. I use 36 and double it with 35 for emphasis on beats.

My biggest pet peeve is when people don't put the palm mutes in. I tried to learn some Slayer songs so I can jam with my friend.. I didn't even get to learn any, I had to waste all my time putting in the palm mutes. I almost feel like resubmitting the formatted version that took me an hour to do (proper break lines, palm mutes, markers).
#10
Quote by xHellbound
My biggest pet peeve is when people don't put the palm mutes in. I tried to learn some Slayer songs so I can jam with my friend.. I didn't even get to learn any, I had to waste all my time putting in the palm mutes.


I don't get it.
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#11
Quote by theogonia777
Maybe they're doing it on purpose so creeps like you don't steal their work.


Who the hell is stealing, man? If you don't want someone using your tabs, don't post them. It's as easy as that. Or maybe you just want to say, "LOOK AT ME I ARE AMAZING FOR MY SHIT TABS DURRR!!!!"
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#12
Quote by xHellbound
They both sound the same to me. I use 36 and double it with 35 for emphasis on beats.

My biggest pet peeve is when people don't put the palm mutes in. I tried to learn some Slayer songs so I can jam with my friend.. I didn't even get to learn any, I had to waste all my time putting in the palm mutes. I almost feel like resubmitting the formatted version that took me an hour to do (proper break lines, palm mutes, markers).



Well there's your problem.
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#13
Quote by xHellbound
They both sound the same to me. I use 36 and double it with 35 for emphasis on beats.

My biggest pet peeve is when people don't put the palm mutes in. I tried to learn some Slayer songs so I can jam with my friend.. I didn't even get to learn any, I had to waste all my time putting in the palm mutes. I almost feel like resubmitting the formatted version that took me an hour to do (proper break lines, palm mutes, markers).


Yeah this is annoying as hell. I wrote a lot of stuff on GP5 w/ MIDI and then I had to go back and add palm mutes in to it all cause it sounded crap with any sort of RSE.
#14
Quote by theogonia777
I don't get it.




Quote by ChucklesMginty
Oh, the only thing that really, really pisses me off. Is when the tab in is midi, and then you realize during guitar tone changes during the song, those are all set to midi as well. So you have to go and change every single one to RSE, on every track.

There should really be an 'RSE by default' option, in fact their probably is.


That I don't mind, 'cause if you've used RSE's with different sound cards, they all sound different. So I always change all the instruments to my preferences anyway.
Last edited by xHellbound at Feb 24, 2012,
#15
Why do people use the RSE option?
Doesn't really make that big of a difference for me.
#16
Quote by ChucklesMginty
Oh, the only thing that really, really pisses me off. Is when the tab in is midi, and then you realize during guitar tone changes during the song, those are all set to midi as well. So you have to go and change every single one to RSE, on every track.

There should really be an 'RSE by default' option, in fact their probably is.


Oh, god, THIS. lol I keep everything set to a specific setting (I'm a bit neurotic about it, to be honest). My settings are distortion for leads, then a 5 left and right for each rhythm with distortion and overdrive, respectively. Every time I download a tab and there are two distortion guitars centered, I fix them to my preference. When someone pastes the bar 30 times with the F10 on each one of them, I just say "f*ck this sh*t, homie" and delete it. lol
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#17
You could avoid much of this by learning by ear.

/Elitist

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#18
Quote by RisingForce1990
You could avoid much of this by learning by ear.

/Elitist


That really does aid writing songs...

And 36|35|40|38 all on one note is the way forward.
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#19
Quote by RisingForce1990
You could avoid much of this by learning by ear.

/Elitist


What about using drum tracks for covers when I have paper thin walls in my apartment?

I try to learn the guitars and bass by ear (did that with every Metallica song when I was 12 and had nothing to do over summer vacation), but that's not going to put the drums in my covers. lol
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#20
Quote by Miseryfields
Who the hell is stealing, man? If you don't want someone using your tabs, don't post them. It's as easy as that. Or maybe you just want to say, "LOOK AT ME I ARE AMAZING FOR MY SHIT TABS DURRR!!!!"


They're posting their tabs to share with other people so they can learn the songs, not so other people can use them in their own recordings. It would be okay if you asked permission, but if you're just taking them without asking, it would be no different than if you resubmitted their tab somewhere and said it was your own.

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I don't see how it makes a difference when learning the song if it has the notes palm muted or not.
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#21
Step 1: Google "Drum Track"
Step 2: Download "Drum Track"
Step 3: Write the "Drum Track" yourself

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#22
Quote by theogonia777
They're posting their tabs to share with other people so they can learn the songs, not so other people can use them in their own recordings. It would be okay if you asked permission, but if you're just taking them without asking, it would be no different than if you resubmitted their tab somewhere and said it was your own.


If it's a song from a band that is not the posters own, it's not their creation to begin with. I wouldn't ask your permission to do a cover of a Dream Theater song, now, would I?
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#25
Quit being a little bitch, TS.

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#26
Quote by a_7_x
40 or 38?


40, 38 sounds less distinct from other notes.
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#27
Quote by Miseryfields
If it's a song from a band that is not the posters own, it's not their creation to begin with. I wouldn't ask your permission to do a cover of a Dream Theater song, now, would I?


But you're not actually taking a part of Dream Theater's song that they recorded and putting it in your recording, now are you? You're recording all of the parts of the song yourself, so the recording is your own work. The same way that the tab belongs to the person that created it.
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#28
Quote by damian_91
Quit being a little bitch, TS.

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No.

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#30
The multiple kicks are to help make the kick distinguishable in songs with lots of low distorted guitar stuff. I don't do it myself because effort, but saying it's stupid is completely unjustified.
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#31
Quote by theogonia777
But you're not actually taking a part of Dream Theater's song that they recorded and putting it in your recording, now are you? You're recording all of the parts of the song yourself, so the recording is your own work. The same way that the tab belongs to the person that created it.


If it's a Dream Theater creation, you don't own any part of it. It's their song. Just because you rewrote the notes doesn't make it yours. Again, if you don't want someone to use the tabs you posted online for people to download, don't post them.

If I go and switch all of the 49 and 57 cymbals, it's no longer your drum tab. It still isn't mine, because I did not originally write it, but because it's different, it's no longer yours.

What you're saying is that if I make a shirt design and then you make the exact same shirt, that shirt design is yours. It isn't. The drums are not yours in those tabs. The melodies are not yours in those tabs. The music in those tabs are still the property of those who wrote it, not those who rewrote it. Again, I don't need to ask you if I want to do a cover of a Dream Theater song.
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#32
Quote by rockfan7
That's why you learn to play by ear.


See my previous response - learning by ear doesn't put drums in my covers when my walls are paper thin and I'm not allowed to have a drum kit in my apartment.
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#33
Quote by Miseryfields
See my previous response - learning by ear doesn't put drums in my covers when my walls are paper thin and I'm not allowed to have a drum kit in my apartment.


Learning a drum track by ear is a bajillion times easier Just write it out in a DAW and use nice drum VST, it will sound a billion times better and only takes like an hour and it gives you a lot more control and understanding of the rhythms
#34
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#35
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#36
Quote by theogonia777
I don't see how it makes a difference when learning the song if it has the notes palm muted or not.


The point of a GP file is to play along with it. It's a learning tool. Without cheating and adding in the palm mutes, I bet you can't learn the rhythm for Phallic Tractor the way the Guitar Pro file is now. Just sounds like an open E ringing for 1 minute straight.
#37
Quote by a_7_x
40 or 38?

38, obviously.


36-36-----36-36-36-----36
--------38--------------38----
--------46-----46------46----
57-----------------------------
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#38
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Who needs RSE anyway?
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#39
Quote by rockfan7
Learning a drum track by ear is a bajillion times easier Just write it out in a DAW and use nice drum VST, it will sound a billion times better and only takes like an hour and it gives you a lot more control and understanding of the rhythms


We've been here and done that. He's having no part of it.

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#40
Quote by RisingForce1990
We've been here and done that. He's having no part of it.


So he's whining about people not doing drums well for things that are suppose to help guitarist?

Hmmm...

If you want good drums you gotta do them yourself
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