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http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

The link talks about rates corresponding by particular religious groups, ages groups, and geographical areas. Very interesting, although I would have liked to see some stats for below the age of 33 and religious groups other than Christians, Jews, and Atheists/agnostics.
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getting married is a death trap.

This. Maybe I'm just ill-informed, but there seem to be more reasons to avoid marriage every day.
#4
"Marriage" is a temporary and binding illusion that fades over time. When the illusion fades and truer selves surface, people realize whether they genuinely love each other.
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#7
You're all so edgy
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#8
I have no problem with marriage just as a nice ceremony or a totem.
I do have a problem with how it is seen as required and the legalities behind it. It's gone from a celebration of bonding to a legal contract that people can pounce upon when it doesn't go well.
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marriage is outdated. There's no need for it any more.

who should get your assets when you die before you've made a will?

when you've quit work to take care of the kids because your significant other earns enough for both of you and then you decide you don't want to be in the relationship anymore, how do you continue to provide for your children/yourself?

marriage isn't for everyone but it does serve its purpose for the most part.

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I have no problem with marriage just as a nice ceremony or a totem.
I do have a problem with how it is seen as required and the legalities behind it. It's gone from a celebration of bonding to a legal contract that people can pounce upon when it doesn't go well.

From what I've read, it's pretty much always been a legal contract.

In fact it used to boil down the sale of a daughter, or the hiring of a man to take her into a good home.
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who should get your assets when you die before you've made a will?

when you've quit work to take care of the kids because your significant other earns enough for both of you and then you decide you don't want to be in the relationship anymore, how do you continue to provide for your children/yourself?

marriage isn't for everyone but it does serve its purpose for the most part.



People should be better encouraged to make wills then.


I agree with everyone saying marriage is unnecessary. If you really love someone, take the money you would have spent on a white dress and hiring a church and a massive party, and spend it on something really nice for your relationship, like a house deposit or a really nice holiday. A much better use of money.
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I have no problem with marriage just as a nice ceremony or a totem.
I do have a problem with how it is seen as required and the legalities behind it. It's gone from a celebration of bonding to a legal contract that people can pounce upon when it doesn't go well.

Marriage has always had a financial part to it.
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People should be better encouraged to make wills then.

Suits me.

But it's usually a thing people put off. Nobody expects to die in their 40s.

I agree with everyone saying marriage is unnecessary. If you really love someone, take the money you would have spent on a white dress and hiring a church and a massive party, and spend it on something really nice for your relationship, like a house deposit or a really nice holiday. A much better use of money.


Except that's not a marriage.

That's a marriage ceremony. Different thing.
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I agree with everyone saying marriage is unnecessary. If you really love someone, take the money you would have spent on a white dress and hiring a church and a massive party, and spend it on something really nice for your relationship, like a house deposit or a really nice holiday. A much better use of money.

I don't know, wedding receptions can be pretty fun...
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Marriage has always had a financial part to it.


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From what I've read, it's pretty much always been a legal contract.

In fact it used to boil down the sale of a daughter, or the hiring of a man to take her into a good home.



I know. I guess I should have worded it better.
What I mean is it's become more of a legal thing than one of unity. Well, I didn't know about the sale of the daughter bit, so I guess I'm still wrong
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I was hoping people would have something to say about the link. *sigh*
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I know. I guess I should have worded it better.
What I mean is it's become more of a legal thing than one of unity. Well, I didn't know about the sale of the daughter bit, so I guess I'm still wrong

Well it's only been relatively recently that women have had anything approaching equal rights.

It's only within the last 50 years or so that it's become legally possible for a wife to refuse to consent to sex. Before that, in most jurisdictions a man could force his wife to have sex with no consequences. It was her duty as a wife.

Even now we still have the remnants of the 'hire a man to take your daughter into a good home' thing. The bride's father traditionally pays for the ceremony. And he 'gives her away' at the altar.



EDIT: ^ I skimmed it. I only really looked at the tables with the figures so there might be things I've missed, but I'm not surprised that religious people don't have a better rate of divorce, despite those vocal people who hold marriage as some sacred concept. It's not a religious thing, despite people's attempts to make it one.
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I was hoping people would have something to say about the link. *sigh*


What link? I saw no link.

>_>
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Well it's only been relatively recently that women have had anything approaching equal rights.

It's only within the last 50 years or so that it's become legally possible for a wife to refuse to consent to sex. Before that, in most jurisdictions a man could force his wife to have sex with no consequences. It was her duty as a wife.

Even now we still have the remnants of the 'hire a man to take your daughter into a good home' thing. The bride's father traditionally pays for the ceremony. And he 'gives her away' at the altar.



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Yet the gays are ruining the institution of marriage...


Silly gays, marriages are for straights.
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Suits me.

But it's usually a thing people put off. Nobody expects to die in their 40s.


Except that's not a marriage.

That's a marriage ceremony. Different thing.


I'd argue against both
#23
All the 16 year old pit-dwellers expressing their disdain of marriage. So hip! So edgy! One day, they'll realize women in the 21'st century still want a man that wants them to express their commitment through marriage. Unless, said pit dwellers marry mistress_ibanez lol
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#24
Those statistics bore me. People get married and then realize that they were naive and didn't really love that person. Woohoo.
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All the 16 year old pit-dwellers expressing their disdain of marriage. So hip! So edgy! One day, they'll realize women in the 21'st century still want a man that wants them to express their commitment through marriage. Unless, said pit dwellers marry mistress_ibanez lol

Not all women want this, and not all men want those women.

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Those statistics bore me. People get married and then realize that they were naive and didn't really love that person. Woohoo.

Or maybe love isn't as permanent as it's made out to be.
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#26
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Those statistics bore me. People get married and then realize that they were naive and didn't really love that person. Woohoo.

I found it interesting when the Baptist leader said he admired the Catholics
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I think your view there is a bit outdated. Not all women want that, and don't men matter? Should they be forced into an unwanted marriage just because it's social convention? Doesn't their happiness matter?

You're a misandrist
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I think your view there is a bit outdated. Not all women want that, and don't men matter? Should they be forced into an unwanted marriage just because it's social convention? Doesn't their happiness matter?

You're a misandrist


lol @ looking like she gives a damn about men

i don't think marriages are that much of a big deal. it's just a formality. a nice party, a new title, and a fresh start. makes you feel different, but rationally and practically, not many differences at all. it doesn't even mean anything in terms of the written work, it's a contract to stay forever until death does them part and evidently the majority of them break up just like any dysfunctional couple. being forced into an unwanted relationship would merit being worried.
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#29
I like the idea of marriage, it seems like a nice celebration of love. It isn't for everyone though, so married couples shouldn't get preferential treatment over unmarried couples.
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I like the idea of marriage, it seems like a nice celebration of love. It isn't for everyone though, so married couples shouldn't get preferential treatment over unmarried couples.

In what context?
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#32
I want to get married in the future. Not now though. I think divorce rates are up because people get married for the wrong reasons, and because they rush into it.

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Oh, and wedding receptions are fun as shit. Who wouldn't want one.
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#33
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I think your view there is a bit outdated. Not all women want that, and don't men matter? Should they be forced into an unwanted marriage just because it's social convention? Doesn't their happiness matter?

You're a misandrist


I'm a closet misandrist

And lol @ any man or woman who sets out to find someone against marriage, they'll be choosing from an extremely small pool of potential mates. I'm just perplexed by this sentiment of anti-marriage. Where does it come from? It behooves the majority of couples to get legally married. Explain to me, why you're against marriage.

inb4 your entire argument is based on sexism.
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#34
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*reads article*

"at a older age"

at a older age

at a older age

at a older age

So how credible is this again?

It's pretty well cited. Quit bitching about stupid typos, you must be one of those people in the columns on UGs homepage.
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#35
Ha-Ha! Suck it god!
"Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience."
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Yet the gays are ruining the institution of marriage...

And atheists have no morals!
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I was hoping people would have something to say about the link. *sigh*

Ron Barrier, Spokesperson for American Atheists remarked on these findings ...

"These findings confirm what I have been saying these last five years. Since Atheist ethics are of a higher caliber than religious morals, it stands to reason that our families would be dedicated more to each other than to some invisible monitor in the sky. With Atheism, women and men are equally responsible for a healthy marriage. There is no room in Atheist ethics for the type of 'submissive' nonsense preached by Baptists and other Christian and/or Jewish groups. Atheists reject, and rightly so, the primitive patriarchal attitudes so prevalent in many religions with respect to marriage."

I call bullshit on the bolded. I'm American, I'm an Atheist, and I'm completely sexist and traditionalist.

This bro is clearly a spokesman for Secular Humanism, not Atheism per se.
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I call BS but for different reasons. Atheism just means you believe there's no god. Everything else is on the table.

Actually, that's kind of the same reason. He's promoting a specific world view with political implications that are not related to Atheism, which is, as you describe it, a mere proposition or single belief.
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I call BS but for different reasons. Atheism just means you believe there's no god. Everything else is on the table.

Yea, exactly.

He acts like being an atheist somehow makes you smarter. I know a lot of religious people, and a lot of atheist. And guess what? They both have their fair share of complete retards.
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