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Currently im 19 years old, turning 20 tomorrow, and just trying to figure out how it all works.

There are a few things I love in life, the kinda stuff I google just because, the kinda stuff that i'll spend a day on youtube just learning about.

Space is one of them. I am FASCINATED by anything dealing with space. The planets, the galaxies, If there was a one way ticket to mars I would take it. I have listened to the sounds of the planets hundreds of times on youtube.

One problem. I loathe math. I hate it so much my body doesn't even try to get better at it.Obviously if I wanted to work in a space career I would need to know math. Any tips or advice to help me overcome my math hump?
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How can you hate math? It's just a tool to come to answers, just as much as logic is. Actually math = logic.
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#4
Get better at maths or choose a job which you are capable of.

Alternatively, start a synth band that uses a lot of spacial, eerie sounds and sing about your space fetish.
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How can you hate math? It's just a tool to come to answers, just as much as logic is. Actually math = logic.



Probably because most of my teachers have done terrible jobs at actually teaching it to me.

Right now in my Intermediate Algebra Class we are doing graphing, which is super easy to me. I dunno why.

I really am interested in stuff like biology and physics and all that its just never been taught to me in an appropriate way, im more of a do it myself learner, thats why I loathe public schooling (well im in college now)

Perhaps I should buy some self help books.
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#7
Advice? Man up and realize that you are pretty much obligated to use math in any career related to astronomy. If you really want to work with astronomy, then that should be enough motovation in itself for you to start having an interest in math.

Also, even though you are interested in space/astronomy: Are you sure that you want to work with it? There is one thing to be interested in something: Working with it is a completely different thing.
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.....sing about your space fetish.



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Simple choice: Suck it up or give up.
You know what you have to do.

Sure I have heard this in a downloaded movie I once had.......

Anyway TS, get better at maths
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#10
Space has been the only thing i've kept interest in over the years

I've nearly joined the military twice, i've wanted to join the peace corps, i've wanted to be a game designer.

But always, in the back of my head, I wish I would have been born a few hundred years later so I could live somewhere other than earth.

I'm facisnated by planets, black holes, galaxies and everything in between. I never pushed it because I knew it would require a butt load of math, and when I understand math im good at it, when I don't im flat out awful. Even most of the time when my problems are marked wrong on homework, im usually only off by a negative sign or got some numbers switched up, very rarely am I ever flat out WRONG.

Sorry if I seem kinda deep, just realizing this isn't where I wanted to be when I turned 20.
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"I hated every minute of training, but I said, "Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion."

- Muhammad Ali

This.

Also: if it really is your teachers fault or whatever get a tutor. Try other methods ie get some books, or find some info online. Don't let bad teachers hold you back.
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so i just read about how .999... = 1

pretty cool huh?


Well, 1/3 = 0.3333 right?

and 3 * 1/3 = 3/3 = 1.

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Well, 1/3 = 0.3333 right?

and 3 * 1/3 = 3/3 = 1.


my mind = blown

my whole world is upside down.

math is cool to me now?

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my mind = blown

my whole world is upside down.

math is cool to me now?

horses are eating each other.


I know right?
Wait 'till you 'get' calculus.
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Probably because most of my teachers have done terrible jobs at actually teaching it to me.


Find yourself some excellent teachers then!

http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/audio-video-courses
http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/Alg/Alg.aspx
http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/CalcI.aspx
http://www.learnerstv.com/Free-Maths-video-lecture-courses.htm
http://midnighttutor.com/math_tutor_online.php

How much math do you know and what are you struggling with?
It gets more interesting the longer you stick with it.
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Psh I never got past Algebra 2.
#21
I'm in the same boat as you TS. I've been godawful at math since about 8th grade, and it's really limited my career options
#22
I saw something with professor Brian Cox where he was saying he was exactly the same as you. He then probably said something that'd help or inspire you but I can't remember it.
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I saw something with professor Brian Cox where he was saying he was exactly the same as you. He then probably said something that'd help or inspire you but I can't remember it.


Every math professor will tell you that they sucked at math as a kid.
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How can you hate math? It's just a tool to come to answers, just as much as logic is. Actually math = logic.


I think you mean math is equivalent to logic.
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Also khan academy.

http://www.khanacademy.org/


I personally don't like the khan academy, but I appreciate that it's helped out many others, so yeah, he should check it out too. I found errors in some of the more advanced videos, which are also for the most quite superficial. Not a surprise given that he's trying to cover so many subjects, but I think it would be much better if he took a step back and let actual experts in those field make videos about more involved topics. It doesn't help that many videos seem to have been made in quite a rush. But I guess up to calculus, it's decent.
(Some of his videos about history, economics and capitalism in particular are very one-sided and biased, which I find questionable in an educational resource.)

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Psh I never got past Algebra 2.


Then I suggest you get started immediately.
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I'm pretty sure you can't completely avoid math if you want to work with space.


I'm sure the Space Pirates would certainly disagree.
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Quote by Julz127
I know right?
Wait 'till you 'get' calculus.

i understood Pre-Calc in high school waaaaaay better than Algebra 2, but that's most likely due to the fact that the Alg 2 teacher was a terrible fat ****, and the Calc teacher was a cool dude from Ireland who told us the shit in our textbooks was retarded and taught us way easier/logical ways of doing it.

i can't remember anything from it though. we'll see how i do once i get back to college. gonna get as much of my math classes out of the way as possible. if it turns out that i "get it," maybe i'll major in math or something.
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"I hated every minute of training, but I said, "Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion."

- Muhammad Ali

I like this.
I love space and math. But im too lazy to do math hw.
#30
You hate highschool math, but then again so does everyone.
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i understood Pre-Calc in high school waaaaaay better than Algebra 2, but that's most likely due to the fact that the Alg 2 teacher was a terrible fat ****, and the Calc teacher was a cool dude from Ireland who told us the shit in our textbooks was retarded and taught us way easier/logical ways of doing it.

i can't remember anything from it though. we'll see how i do once i get back to college. gonna get as much of my math classes out of the way as possible. if it turns out that i "get it," maybe i'll major in math or something.


Don't have the attitude "The textbook/teacher is confusing." "The textbook/teacher explains it badly..."

Just have to keep practicing, math is about practice.
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Probably because most of my teachers have done terrible jobs at actually teaching it to me.

Right now in my Intermediate Algebra Class we are doing graphing, which is super easy to me. I dunno why.

I really am interested in stuff like biology and physics and all that its just never been taught to me in an appropriate way, im more of a do it myself learner, thats why I loathe public schooling (well im in college now)

Perhaps I should buy some self help books.



my physics tutor at high school told us that physics was basically applied math. with a few hidden extras to annoy us
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#34
I had a similar issue in high school. The only two math teachers in my high school both were missing during my two years of calculus (heart attack for one, baby for the other). If you are serious about doing this, buy these books and dedicate an hour or two to them every single weekday; making sure you can derive every equation they get to:

Calculus for Dummies
Teach Yourself Calculus

These are purely mathematical, no applications.

This one Calculus with Applications, contains some of the same material, but shows you why math is a tool in understanding the universe with some nice applications. This and "Calculus for Dummies" are the two that I worked through when I was in High School. The other is just a good reference book as well.

If you want to do anything with space, you will need either an engineering degree, a math degree, or a science degree (physics, biology, chemistry) of some sort... all of which are math heavy. If you want to set yourself up for success in the field, get ahead now on the math.

Think of it this way; if you want to program computers you have to learn the syntax and how to write simple, stupid programs. No one likes making a program that prints, "Hello World," because it isn't interesting, but it's necessary if you eventually want to write a program that simulates to colliding space-ships and the resulting awesomeness.