#1
I'm getting an AL-2000 soon and ^that^ combo is what I want. Has anybody tried that? Does it work? Thanks.
#2
I've never tried a invader but i love my h4's
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I'm getting an AL-2000 soon and ^that^ combo is what I want. Has anybody tried that? Does it work? Thanks.

That's a terrible idea for so many reasons
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#5
EMG passive pickups, while nicely made, do not sound good. Fact is, EMG specialise in active designs. When it comes to passives they don't really know what they're doing and they try to get the same active tone out of a passive pickup. It doesn't work. The result is a pickup that is made in America but sounds like any generic Chinese-made pickup you'd find in a stock Epiphone, Squier or other cheaper guitar. I can say with some confidence that the Agile's stock pickups will be better than the EMG.

As for the Invader, it's just not a terribly good pickup other than in a few odd roles. It's not something you want to bank on without having gotten the guitar first and heard how the guitar sounds on its own. It can sound good, but only if you use it appropriately. Frankly, I would never use one in any type of Les Paul copy. That's just asking for a hell of a lot of mud.

If you want high output pickups, there are a thousand other better options out there.

What amp do you have and what kind of tone are you trying to get?
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#6
That is just an... awful combination. And you didn't even say the Invader in the bridge and the H4 in the neck, but the other way around.


What amp do you have and what kind of tone are you trying to get?


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Neither of those pickups are in any way shape or form good in a les paul. The H4 is flat out awful (I don't like active EMGs, their passives are just worse) in anything.

What kind of tone are you going for?
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I'm guessing you want high output? go with a sd dimebucker and a jb

That's no better...
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As for the tone I'm trying to get. I was thinking the H4 in the bridge would be nice for Metallica or Slayer type rhythm stuff. I was also thinking that the Invader in the neck would work for leads like Iron Maiden or A7X. Do I have that backwards? Is it rhythm in neck and lead in bridge? I don't have an electric guitar yet so I don't really know.
#11
If you don't even have an electric yet there's literally no point in replacing your pickups. Frankly, you won't even notice the difference.
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#13
if you haven't played electric guitar yet, stick with stock.

you don't have the experience or knowledge to make an informed, or even remotely educated, decision as to electronic upgrades. keep the guitar stock and make note of the shortcomings you find. that will greatly help you pick the right pickups.

also, the two you picked suck. bad
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At the end of the day its what sounds good to your ears.
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#15
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As for the tone I'm trying to get. I was thinking the H4 in the bridge would be nice for Metallica or Slayer type rhythm stuff. I was also thinking that the Invader in the neck would work for leads like Iron Maiden or A7X. Do I have that backwards? Is it rhythm in neck and lead in bridge? I don't have an electric guitar yet so I don't really know.

The neck pickup is often referred to as the 'rhythm' position, though in most modern music the rhythm parts are actually played with the bridge pickup and a lot of people prefer to use the neck pickup for lead playing.
The bridge pickup is often called the 'lead' pickup (or 'treble' pickup on many Gibson-style guitars), but if anything its most common use is to play rhythm.

As a general rule, you do not want to put a powerful pickup in the neck position. The neck position is already going to be louder and thicker-sounding than the bridge is, so putting a powerful pickup there usually results in nothing more than a horrible mess.
As for the H4, it's simply not a good pickup. EMG passive pickups do not sound like their active pickups (though they try and make them too, they fail).

If anything, you do have it the wrong way around. The Invader is a thicker, more powerful pickup than the H4 so the normal thing to do would be to put the Invader in the bridge and the H4 in the neck. The thing is, both those pickups are not that good (the Invader can be, but only if you really know what you're doing and choose wisely).

Wait until you actually have the guitar before you worry about pickups. Pickups are for tweaking your tone; the most important element is your amp, then your guitar, then pickups. If you are going to use pedals then those also take priority over pickups. Pickups do not define your sound as much as you may think they do. A good guitar and amp with cheap pickups will always sound better than a cheap guitar and amp with good pickups. You could hand Kerry King a guitar with a low-output humbucker in it and he would still find a way, with his playing and his amps, to make it sound heavy and professional. On the other hand if you handed him a guitar with high output EMG, Seymour Duncan or DiMarzio pickups in it but you made him play through a rubbish amp, he would struggle to sound good.
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#16
@MrFlibble Thanks for the info. That's what I needed to know.

I wasn't thinking of getting new pickups right off the bat. I was thinking more like 2 or 3 years down the road. I just wanted to know if that combo was any good.
#18
Terrible. If you can't select pickups, go for recommended sets, like tb4-sh2n. Or either dimarzio tone zone -air norton, maybe emg 81-60, but really, your combination sounds terrifyingly bad.
#19
How about you just forget about the pickups all together. Your only focus should be just getting a decent guitar which the Al-2000 you are looking at just happened to be pretty good. If you will be playing metal a lot then I suggest looking at guitarfetish.com for these
http://www.guitarfetish.com/XV-599-Carved-Top-Wood-Binding-Abalone-Purlfing_c_306.html
These are good guitars and like a real les paul have mahogany necks as well. Also the stock pickups in these are better than the AL-2000's and will do metal pretty well. Plus it has a cut out which makes playing high notes easier.