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#1
Hey guys.
Me and my friends recently started a band. We're pretty good, and I have some great songs written (I know, everyone thinks their songs rock, but mine do for real!). We're all 17 and we live in St. Louis.
How do we get started? Weve only played at a few high school events. People love us though, which is good considering the state of pop music now. is step one to record some songs? Or play some real shows? I just don't know where to start. Also, what percent of the songs we play can be covers? We have great songs but covers are always nice.
Will our band be sustainable to live off of? We're all smart guys, not dropping out school or anything, and all going to college. But if we rock hard enough you never know.
Thanks for the help
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This. My singer plays the fogmachine, but unfortunately we're looking to hire someone else as he can't do that and play guitar at the same time.
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(I know, everyone thinks their songs rock, but mine do for real!).


That's what they all say. And yours probably aren't very good either.

People love us though, which is good considering the state of pop music now.


Please elaborate, TS.
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#11
Power chords man.


Make sure your G and B string are comically un-tuned as well. OH!!! Really tight girl shirts, jeans and spiky hair bro! You'll be a shoe in.
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OT: Practice, record some shitty tapes of yourself playing, press a CD of said shitty demos, take them to all the venues where you'd be allowed to play...

Then play some acoustic sets at local open mic nights and advertise your show during your set.
#13
- Angst
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Seriously: Start playing gigs. That's how most people get known
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#14
You should play shows around the city and work on your material. Build a name for yourself before you record anything. That way, more people are likely to buy what you put out if they've heard about you. I'd try playing small venues like bars that allow shows.
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That's what they all say. And yours probably aren't very good either.


Please elaborate, TS.


1) it was obvious sarcasm. I think they're decent. But so does everyone about their own songs. I acknowledge that.

2) I think you're all missing the point of the thread. What's our first move?
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1) it was obvious sarcasm. I think they're decent. But so does everyone about their own songs. I acknowledge that.

2) I think you're all missing the point of the thread. What's our first move?


I think you're missing the point of my post.


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2) I think you're all missing the point of the thread. What's our first move?


That's really not how it works.
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#18
Record a mixtape and send it to local clubs.
Cover like 2 songs per set (assuming you're doing a medium length set)
As for if you can live off it, probably not. At least not until you can play really often, and have a decent sized fanbase.

Also, is it like pop punk, or legit punk (Black Flag, Sex Pistols, Agent Orange, Circle Jerks, or dead Kennedys styled stuff)
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This. My singer plays the fogmachine, but unfortunately we're looking to hire someone else as he can't do that and play guitar at the same time.

All jokes aside, my drummers fog machine has a foot switch, so during practices for the hell of it I'd set up the pedal to the fog machine with my pedalboard and I'd go from my f*cking wah or something to the fog machine footswitch
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I think you're missing the point of my post.


PUNK.
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NEED.
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HELP.
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#22
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Also, is it like pop punk, or legit punk (Black Flag, Sex Pistols, Agent Orange, Circle Jerks, or dead Kennedys styled stuff)


A little bit of both. The sound is mostly real punk. I feel like there's some elements of 90s pop punk in our stuff too though.
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My band has a seven song set with two covers so I guess thats probably a good amount. As for places to play I'm very lucky because there's a very good hardcore and indie scene where I live. I'd say just email any clubs and venues that have had bands similar to yours play before.

Edit: If you don't have any recordings yet make some soon they will help you get gigs. You don't need any album quality stuff though so don't worry about paying for a recording studio, just use GarageBand or something.
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#24
Start by stopping because punk is awful.
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#26
You could read these:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2252943_create-punk-jacket.html
http://www.ehow.com/how_4424550_become-punk.html
http://www.howtobepunk.com/
http://lifestyle.iloveindia.com/lounge/how-to-be-punk-3660.html

And do this:


Or else you're not doing it right.


Ok, I'll give you some real advice. Don't play covers at all. That's dumb. I never understood why people did it. If you know anybody at all who is in a local scene of any kind and getting shows get in contact with them. Ask them about where they play shows, who the play shows with, and promoters. Contact promoters and ask about opportunities to play. You probably won't be able to sustain a living off this band, even if it somewhat blows up, but who knows? Just get your foot in the door and start playing shows. Most importantly get in contact with other bands and promoters. Trust me, it will take off from there.
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http://www.ehow.com/how_4424550_become-punk.html
http://www.howtobepunk.com/
http://lifestyle.iloveindia.com/lounge/how-to-be-punk-3660.html

And do this:


Or else you're not doing it right.


Ok, I'll give you some real advice. Don't play covers at all. That's dumb. I never understood why people did it. If you know anybody at all who is in a local scene of any kind and getting shows get in contact with them. Ask them about where they play shows, who the play shows with, and promoters. Contact promoters and ask about opportunities to play. You probably won't be able to sustain a living off this band, even if it somewhat blows up, but who knows? Just get your foot in the door and start playing shows. Most importantly get in contact with other bands and promoters. Trust me, it will take off from there.



Maybe because people and fans like songs they recognize?


I don't know... Maybe.


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Maybe because people and fans like songs they recognize?


I don't know... Maybe.


/sarcasm

I'm cool with one cover every couple of sets or so, but when it's more than one, what's the point? If I'm in a band I want to come out with original material, and if I'm a listener I want to hear original material, not rehashes of already written songs. Unless you do something completely different with the song or just play one cover every set at most, I don't see any appeal in covers. The point of being in a band to me is to create new music. There's no greater feeling than people genuinely digging your original music. Sorry if I came off as an asshole, but that's my view.

Oh, and good luck trying to make it big as a cover band. You'll make more money at first, but you'll never get to a point that you'll make a living with it.
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I'm cool with one cover every couple of sets or so, but when it's more than one, what's the point? If I'm in a band I want to come out with original material, and if I'm a listener I want to hear original material, not rehashes of already written songs. Unless you do something completely different with the song or just play one cover every set at most, I don't see any appeal in covers. The point of being in a band to me is to create new music. There's no greater feeling than people genuinely digging your original music. Sorry if I came off as an asshole, but that's my view.

Oh, and good luck trying to make it big as a cover band. You'll make more money at first, but you'll never get to a point that you'll make a living with it.


Speak for yourself. Personally, I'm not there to look for the 'next big thing' I want to have fun at a show. You're an entertainer, you're supposed to entertain. Not stroke your ego. People want to have fun at a show too. Covers are fun, and you can justify them.


I also like how you assume that I play in a cover band, or a band at all for the matter. Frankly, it's a moot point because I was never trying to argue that cover bands make more money NOR was I arguing that you should just play covers so I don't understand your point here.


What you said is that you don't see the appeal of a cover or the point. So I gave you a reason.


So then what's your opinion of big bands that do covers? There's a lot of them and they actually have enough original songs to play a whoooooole damn set of their own songs yet for some reason, Metallica can't go one show without covering Thin Lizzy and Bob Seger. Hell, they'll cover other shit too.


EDIT: Also, making a living off music? I'm stupid, but I'm not THAT stupid. I'm too old to be dreaming blindly.
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#30
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Hey guys.
Me and my friends recently started a band. We're pretty good, and I have some great songs written (I know, everyone thinks their songs rock, but mine do for real!). We're all 17 and we live in St. Louis.
How do we get started? Weve only played at a few high school events. People love us though, which is good considering the state of pop music now. is step one to record some songs? Or play some real shows? I just don't know where to start. Also, what percent of the songs we play can be covers? We have great songs but covers are always nice.
Will our band be sustainable to live off of? We're all smart guys, not dropping out school or anything, and all going to college. But if we rock hard enough you never know.
Thanks for the help


What the hell is that supposed to mean?
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#31
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What the hell is that supposed to mean?



He's implying that pop music isn't up to par with his standards.
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Speak for yourself. Personally, I'm not there to look for the 'next big thing' I want to have fun at a show. You're an entertainer, you're supposed to entertain. Not stroke your ego. People want to have fun at a show too. Covers are fun, and you can justify them.


I also like how you assume that I play in a cover band, or a band at all for the matter. Frankly, it's a moot point because I was never trying to argue that cover bands make more money NOR was I arguing that you should just play covers so I don't understand your point here.


What you said is that you don't see the appeal of a cover or the point. So I gave you a reason.


So then what's your opinion of big bands that do covers? There's a lot of them and they actually have enough original songs to play a whoooooole damn set of their own songs yet for some reason, Metallica can't go one show without covering Thin Lizzy and Bob Seger. Hell, they'll cover other shit too.


EDIT: Also, making a living off music? I'm stupid, but I'm not THAT stupid.

When I played in a band, I didn't think about myself as an entertainer. Sure, our side purpose was to entertain, but we wrote these songs for ourselves because we enjoyed making them. If people enjoyed it enough to see at as entertainment, that's a bonus. I'm willing to bet most bands and musicians function that way.

And where did I assume you were part of a cover band? I was just giving my views on covering songs and cover bands in general. My opinion on big bands who do covers depends on the artist, how they're covering a song, and in what situations. I have plenty of respect for some bands that play covers (Metallica isn't one of them).

And TS asked about what are his possibilities of making a living off music. I said they're not great, and especially worse as a cover artist, but it can be done.

This is my last response to you though, we're derailing the thread.
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He's implying that pop music isn't up to par with his standards.


His standards? he plays pop-punk?

And he says "We're all smart guys, we're going to college."

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#34
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When I played in a band, I didn't think about myself as an entertainer. Sure, our side purpose was to entertain, but we wrote these songs for ourselves because we enjoyed making them. If people enjoyed it enough to see at as entertainment, that's a bonus. I'm willing to bet most bands and musicians function that way.

And I didn't say anything about you, I was just giving my views on covering songs and cover bands in general. My opinion on big bands who do covers depends on the artist, how they're covering a song, and in what situations. I have plenty of respect for some bands that play covers (Metallica isn't one of them).

And TS asked about what are his possibilities of making a living off music. I said they're not great, and especially worse as a cover artist, but it can be done.

This is my last response to you though, we're derailing the thread.



Fair enough. It seems like were arguing the same point anyway
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I'm cool with one cover every couple of sets or so, but when it's more than one, what's the point? If I'm in a band I want to come out with original material, and if I'm a listener I want to hear original material, not rehashes of already written songs. Unless you do something completely different with the song or just play one cover every set at most, I don't see any appeal in covers. The point of being in a band to me is to create new music. There's no greater feeling than people genuinely digging your original music. Sorry if I came off as an asshole, but that's my view.

Oh, and good luck trying to make it big as a cover band. You'll make more money at first, but you'll never get to a point that you'll make a living with it.

So you're saying you expect to just magically gain a following by playing your original material? Dude at first covers are essential. My whole philosophy is to start out with a set that consists of primarily covers and a couple originals, and as you gain a following, slowly gravitate towards a set with mostly originals and a few covers.

My point is, this day in age nobody wants to go to a bar to hear someones original tunes. If you want to get anywhere in a band you should start out playing stuff people know so they pay attention to you. Then hit them with your original stuff. I do agree that covers should never be clones though. I always make a cover tune my own in a way to keep it interesting for the players and the listeners.
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#36
You're not in a punk band.
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#38
Your songs can't be good, you're playing punk. Sorry TS.
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So you're saying you expect to just magically gain a following by playing your original material? Dude at first covers are essential. My whole philosophy is to start out with a set that consists of primarily covers and a couple originals, and as you gain a following, slowly gravitate towards a set with mostly originals and a few covers.

My point is, this day in age nobody wants to go to a bar to hear someones original tunes. If you want to get anywhere in a band you should start out playing stuff people know so they pay attention to you. Then hit them with your original stuff. I do agree that covers should never be clones though. I always make a cover tune my own in a way to keep it interesting for the players and the listeners.

My old band gained a following without playing any covers, and we did pretty damn well for a local band of 17 year olds. We recorded our originals, put them on the internet, found promoters, talked to other bands, and it worked. We ended up playing a ton of show and getting a lot of local hype. Most bands I know from my area started that way also, it did help that we had a scene to integrate ourselves in. There's really no need to start with covers imo.


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#40
Start in a time machine set for 1981.

You, good sir, have not gone over to your friends house after a hard night of drinking to find 2 dudes passed out in the same room both holding their own flaccid cocks in hand, passed out, with porn on the tv.
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