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#1
I'm starting the process of applying for internships and getting in the mindset of srs bsns, and this issue keeps coming up. Employers are increasingly checking out your Facebook and other online presence to judge you.

What are your thoughts on this? If you're in this type of situation where you're looking for jobs/other professional connections, would you make your profiles completely private or leave it out for them to see? Some articles even suggest if you don't have FB for whatever reason, it can actually hurt you, so it's like you're forced to get a profile. Anyone had any encounters with this kinda crap yet?

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#2
Never had an encounter with it. My profile has been set to private since I made it, although it probably needs to be reconfigured now that Timeline is out or some shit.
#3
i think it's really underhanded that they do it, but it's the reality of today.

i haven't had it happen to me yet, as far as i know, but i also have been looking for a job for nearly a year now with no success.
#4
I don't social network. There are immense benefits to being mostly a ghost on the e-spectrum.
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#5
I would put my Facebook to private, but I'm not at the age where this thing should bother me.

Personally, I think the whole idea of them searching your Facebook is rather pointless and intrusive. My work ethic and social personality are completely different. I do well at school and I don't slack off at work, but around my friends I'm probably one of the silliest and most outspoken of the lot.
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#6
Man, fuck social networking sites, they're seriously not worth it anymore.
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#7
I've always wondered if not having a profile could hurt you as well. Hopefully this isn't true, but I wonder if employers see that you don't have a Facebook and assume you're hiding something, 'cause obviously every normal person has Facebook (sarcasm of course).

I'd be more concerned about them finding my UG profile. Especially with all the socialist views I discuss here, I wouldn't be viewed the same way as somebody that worships companies and that is willing to spend their whole life working for them.
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#9
I'd rather have an employer ask me to my face whatever it is they need to know in the interview than having to go check my facebook, tumblr, twitter, whatever.

That being said, i've never had to deal with an employer doing something like that while being considered for a job. I do know however that my manager had tried to check mine and a couple of the other assistants facebook at my workplace, and that made me a tad uncomfortable. Not in the sense that there's anything that i want to hide, but it sort of made me feel like she didn't trust me enough to come to me and ask whatever it is she was trying to learn off of my profile.
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#10
I disagree with employers checking out your facebook. I'm not someone who posts stupidly, but my friends don't necessarily conform to that, so I'd be a little concerned about employers judging me based on stuff that my friends might post. Plus, how I conduct my private life doesn't have any bearing on my work ethic or how I handle jobs.
#11
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I'd be more concerned about them finding my UG profile. Especially with all the socialist views I discuss here, I wouldn't be the same way as somebody that worships companies that is willing to spend their whole life working for them.


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#12
I deactivated my facebook and haven't been using it for a few months at least, now. I can see how if an employer checked facebook's, if someone one applicant didn't have a facebook, how that could be a negative.

I suppose it depends on the job. If it were a really professional job, then I'd probably be better off just not having a facebook.

I haven't really thought too much of the morality of it. But I suppose it's a good idea. I've found that people who go out getting drunk all the time at clubs and shit and have tons of photos on facebook tend to have a not-so-desirable work ethic.
#13
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Yeah, if they find this bad boy, you're fucked.


Not sure if being sarcastic or agreeing with me.

I do feel that my previous post was poorly worded. What I was basically saying is that I criticise the business world in general all the time on UG, so if they saw this, why would they hire me? I'd rather not work for most of them anyway and only work for organisations that I have respect for, but it's not like I have a choice. I'm either being exploited or dying, and if nobody wants to hire me because theyr ead my criticisms, only one of those options remains.
#14
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I've always wondered if not having a profile could hurt you as well. Hopefully this isn't true, but I wonder if employers see that you don't have a Facebook and assume you're hiding something, 'cause obviously every normal person has Facebook (sarcasm of course).

I'd be more concerned about them finding my UG profile. Especially with all the socialist views I discuss here, I wouldn't be viewed the same way as somebody that worships companies and that is willing to spend their whole life working for them.
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#15
I don't know.

But I do know that employers have a problem with a potential "hiree" if their mother drives a van.
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"Well, we couldn't find a facebook, but we found his 'UG profile', whatever that is."

"And? What's the read-out, Johnson?"

"He sometimes has low self-esteem...and he likes Cockatoos."

"......"


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#17
the REAL problem i have is my old and new email addresses.

the old one is normal, but has a ****ton of spam and shit and i really don't use it for much anymore

the new one contains a joke involving my name and the word "cunt" probably not the best email to give a potential employer...
#18
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I've always wondered if not having a profile could hurt you as well. Hopefully this isn't true
http://moneyland.time.com/2012/03/01/how-to-shape-your-facebook-profile-to-help-you-land-a-job/?iid=pf-main-lede

"Having a Facebook account is standard nowadays. If you don’t have an account, then you won’t appear relevant to employers in many industries. Especially in fields such as PR and marketing, it’s essential to become proficient in using social media because this is how people are communicating, networking and doing business these days."


I'd be more concerned about them finding my UG profile. Especially with all the socialist views I discuss here, I wouldn't be viewed the same way as somebody that worships companies and that is willing to spend their whole life working for them.

Fortunately, I don't think most of UG's forum contents are searched. Most of you were smart enough to use screennames, so really there's very little chance of them finding anything. I'm a dumbass using my very distinct real name and now it's embedded on here FOREVER But I google my name to check up on these things and UG stuff doesn't really show up. Whew.

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http://moneyland.time.com/2012/03/01/how-to-shape-your-facebook-profile-to-help-you-land-a-job/?iid=pf-main-lede

"Having a Facebook account is standard nowadays. If you don’t have an account, then you won’t appear relevant to employers in many industries. Especially in fields such as PR and marketing, it’s essential to become proficient in using social media because this is how people are communicating, networking and doing business these days."


Fortunately, I don't think most of UG's forum contents are searched. Most of you were smart enough to use screennames, so really there's very little chance of them finding anything. I'm a dumbass using my very distinct real name and now it's embedded on here FOREVER But I google my name to check up on these things and UG stuff doesn't really show up. Whew.



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#21
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I'd rather have an employer ask me to my face whatever it is they need to know in the interview than having to go check my facebook, tumblr, twitter, whatever.

The problem is that a lot of them are using it as a SCREENING tool. So before you even have the luxury of getting an interview, some douche might not even give a second look to your application if your FB isn't up to par.

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4th result. I lol'd at "Xiaoxi Wu" though.

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also it's more likely that you'd just searched my full name, and UG doesn't come up there.

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#23
What's annoying is that now, thanks to timeline, employers can easily view any post from any time in your accounts history within a few clicks. Still waiting for Facebook to get rid of that bullshit, it's one of few things I really hate about timeline.
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#24
Isn't timeline something you have to activate? I apparently don't have it, and whenever I log in I'm asked to "get the new Facebook timeline".
#25
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Not sure if being sarcastic or agreeing with me.

I do feel that my previous post was poorly worded. What I was basically saying is that I criticise the business world in general all the time on UG, so if they saw this, why would they hire me? I'd rather not work for most of them anyway and only work for organisations that I have respect for, but it's not like I have a choice. I'm either being exploited or dying, and if nobody wants to hire me because theyr ead my criticisms, only one of those options remains.


Was agreeing. It's a horseshit employment model as a whole, and the organizations you do have respect for usually don't want you. It's a cutthroat economy and they're gonna eat you up, chew you up real good, and spit you out in 30 years when you're starting to become lame and no one really wants you by then anyway. That's why you gotta work for yourself.
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#26
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also it's more likely that you'd just searched my full name, and UG doesn't come up there.



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#27
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Was agreeing. It's a horseshit employment model as a whole, and the organizations you do have respect for usually don't want you. It's a cutthroat economy and they're gonna eat you up, chew you up real good, and spit you out in 30 years when you're starting to become lame and no one really wants you by then anyway. That's why you gotta work for yourself.


Yeah, I'd rather work for myself than any for-profit organisation. It's just that that likely won't work out, which is why I sometimes worry.
#28
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What's annoying is that now, thanks to timeline, employers can easily view any post from any time in your accounts history within a few clicks. Still waiting for Facebook to get rid of that bullshit, it's one of few things I really hate about timeline.

Yeah I hate Timeline. On top of being the worst thing you could possibly do design-wise, it just exposes all those past, more fun years, when you could get shitfaced in photos and make inappropriate statuses without all this baggage.

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Isn't timeline something you have to activate? I apparently don't have it, and whenever I log in I'm asked to "get the new Facebook timeline".

They're gradually forcing it on everybody. They forced it on me about 2 months ago.

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Isn't timeline something you have to activate? I apparently don't have it, and whenever I log in I'm asked to "get the new Facebook timeline".

Well, yeah. The issue is that you can't revert it to the older layout.

I don't quite mind the onstensible appearance, it's sleek and fresh. Other than that it's wrong altogether. My biggest problems are about how clustered all the tabs are on your profile and the way you sort of have to click through a lot of things to get to something you're after. I've gotten over those, but I haven't gotten over the fact that anyone can view anything I've ever written. I used to be such a dick the first half of last year and I don't appreciate people having the ability to view it without having to do a lot of digging.

If given the chance, I would definitely swap back to the previous layout.

EDIT: ^They're actually forcing it now? Damn.
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#30
Good thing I just recently made one and I don't post anything stupid (I hardly post at all). Now when it finally gets around to me I won't have to worry about it too much.
#31
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The problem is that a lot of them are using it as a SCREENING tool. So before you even have the luxury of getting an interview, some douche might not even give a second look to your application if your FB isn't up to par.



Oh yeah i know, and it shouldn't be that way. I know that one of the managers i work with does this. I know we've turned down many people just because of a quick facebook glance through interests, photos, videos, wall posts and stuff like that. Granted there are times when there are things on there that could deem them unprofessional, or unreliable or just say no work ethic, but then there are other times when there's just a few small things yet we pass up the employee anyway. I just don't think it does the employee justice, which is why i always say to do the interview first and then a facebook checking, if it has to be done at all.


edit: just remembered. When i was an employee, one of the managers would check which school the applicant came from, and if it was from a certain school around here (this school had a really bad rep.), he'd just toss the application into the garbage. Fresh bullshit right there,
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I do know however that my manager had tried to check mine and a couple of the other assistants facebook at my workplace

How did you know that she was checking your FB?

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#33
There's actually more and more things wrong about timeline when I think about it properly. I hate the way there's not a clear order of events on your profile, there's just statuses and photos chucked left, right and centre. It's also very silly that you can alter where the status appears, and you can even post statuses which appear as being made over a week ago. Bleh.
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#34
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Fortunately, I don't think most of UG's forum contents are searched. Most of you were smart enough to use screennames, so really there's very little chance of them finding anything. I'm a dumbass using my very distinct real name and now it's embedded on here FOREVER But I google my name to check up on these things and UG stuff doesn't really show up. Whew.

I've posted my full name on here a few times but anything related to me is drowned out by some old Colonel when you search it in Google. Not that there's anything I post on here that would make me that unemployable.
#35
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Oh yeah i know, and it shouldn't be that way. I know that one of the managers i work with does this. I know we've turned down many people just because of a quick facebook glance through interests, photos, videos, wall posts and stuff like that. Granted there are times when there are things on there that could deem them unprofessional, or unreliable or just say no work ethic, but then there are other times when there's just a few small things yet we pass up the employee anyway. I just don't think it does the employee justice, which is why i always say to do the interview first and then a facebook checking, if it has to be done at all.

Wow, that's so shitty.

So when you say "a quick glance through info" do you mean they were tossed because the content suggested bad things or because they were private/hidden?

And can you give some specific examples of those "few small things" you're referring to?

Also, what kind of field are you in?

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#36
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How did you know that she was checking your FB?


I was informed by another member of management, one who's close friends with her. If i remember correctly she was trying to see my religious views or something...
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#37
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Yeah, I'd rather work for myself than any for-profit organisation. It's just that that likely won't work out, which is why I sometimes worry.

You have to work for someone else until you can save up enough to fund working for yourself for a while. Whether that means investing in buying some shiny new equipments of all sorts or just having burn money to sit down for a year and author an operating system, or something crazy like that. It's all about doing what's best for the continuity of this place and ourselves. If you make useful things, people listen to you. Working some ballsack job for someone else's profit doesn't facilitate personal growth or an increase in responsibility for the quality of your creations as does working for yourself on something useful for the world. Simple as that.
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#38
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I've posted my full name on here a few times but anything related to me is drowned out by some old Colonel when you search it in Google. Not that there's anything I post on here that would make me that unemployable.

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I was informed by another member of management, one who's close friends with her. If i remember correctly she was trying to see my religious views or something...

Would your religious views have altered her opinion on you and your job?
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#39
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Wow, that's so shitty.

So when you say "a quick glance through info" do you mean they were tossed because the content suggested bad things or because they were private/hidden?


The contents suggested.

And can you give some specific examples of those "few small things" you're referring to?


One example: The guy looking through the applicants facebook had seen a few photos of the guy at a hookah bar. He showed the General Manager and she just passed him up. I believe she said something about "not needing someone who has filthy habits and spends their time at such a lowly place."

Another example was a girl, over the age of 21 drinking at a party. She only had a couple of photos on her facebook, but the same thing happened to her as the guy at the hookah bar.

I know these sound completely ridiculous, but our GM is every definition of ridiculous.

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Would your religious views have altered her opinion on you and your job?


It's not suppose to, and it's very unprofessional if it was to alter her opinion. I'm an atheist, and she's a very religious Catholic. As of right now she doesn't know and will not know what my views are until she comes to me herself and asks.

Another thing is that i have a few notes on facebook that i've written about my beliefs, and i'm afraid they would offend her, which i know would change her opinion of me.
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#40
Put your profile on private? Or just not have an account?
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