#1
When I do screaming growling and shreiking and yelling and what not, do the vocals have to be in key?

I am curious because I have a school assignment where you have to write a song in key (Im using the key of A) and I'm not a singer obviously but damn I can growl and scream as much as I want, and I think I could slap some lyrics on my composition and scare the entire music class, LOL
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#2
Screaming and growling don't use notes, just general sounds like low high and mid, but harsh vocals like in five finger death punch or metallica do have a certain melodious-ness about them I guess.
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#3
high screams ala Rob Halford sound better when in key but low ones aren't pitched persay.
#4
...everything that comes out of your mouth has some kind of pitch. The more aggressive the music the less "pretty" the vocals have to be, but good is good and bad is bad here. That's really the best gauge.
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#5
Quote by mh1986
high screams ala Rob Halford sound better when in key but low ones aren't pitched persay.



vocals like halford(just like any other singing) HAVE to be in key to sound good.


metalcore and other extreme metal-type vocals don't really have to be in key per se, just a the pitch that sounds the best.


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Screaming and growling don't use notes



this is false, literally all sounds have a measurable pitch, although its not necessarily consistent, obviously
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#6
Quote by rickyj
vocals like halford(just like any other singing) HAVE to be in key to sound good.


metalcore and other extreme metal-type vocals don't really have to be in key per se, just a the pitch that sounds the best.


Yeah, like I said. They do sound much better when in key. You can do them off key as well, they just don't sound all that great. lol.
#7
Quote by sonny bb
Screaming and growling don't use notes, just general sounds like low high and mid, but harsh vocals like in five finger death punch or metallica do have a certain melodious-ness about them I guess.



Wrong.

Anywho, it depends on whether or not you'd be pitching you're screams.
Which I doubt, as not many people even know how, so if you're just doing a general low/high thing, no they don't really have to be in key. :3


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#8
And how do I judge if I'm growling or screaming or yelling in key, do I get my guitar tuner and scream into it and see what note comes up?
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#9
And how do I judge if I'm growling or screaming or yelling in key, do I get my guitar tuner and scream into it and see what note comes up?
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#10
Judging by the fact that you just asked that question, I would go out on a hinge and say you're new to harsh vocals

Don't worry about pitching you're screams dude, it's a very complicated technique (at least if you're doing tradition power exhales, false chords, all the same shit) that involves using two different parts of you're throat at once.

You're better off doing normal growls and screams and shouts


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Judging by the fact that you just asked that question, I would go out on a hinge and say you're new to harsh vocals

Don't worry about pitching you're screams dude, it's a very complicated technique (at least if you're doing tradition power exhales, false chords, all the same shit) that involves using two different parts of you're throat at once.

You're better off doing normal growls and screams and shouts


Unless he is a fryer of course (not the monkly, brown robe fellas), then it would be pretty easy to pitch. But Scow is completely correct.

However, their are some screams that will sound completely wrong for some parts. Just make the song heavy and should be ok to do whatever you what growling-wise.

And post it up when you are done!
#12
Quote by Scowmoo
Wrong.


I like that bands use screaming and a great deal of bands i like are largley screamed, but you can't honestly tell me that Chris Barnes is hitting anysort of note other than "Low". I'll give it that it sounds good when used correctly, but it isn't very musical.
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#13
Well, mostly yes. You can have the occasional tone that is not in key, but you have to return to the key as soon as possible.

Harsh vocals that spend too much time "out of key" sound awful. Even if they are harsh, if they are in key they sound better, but you can get away with the occasional tone that is not in key, but you have to return to the key as soon as possible or it will sound like crap.

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#14
Harsh vocals do have a tonal quality, it's just a more complex, less refined type of sound than "singing". All sounds have a tonal quality, it's just a matter of how complex it is. Musical instruments and different vocal techniques fall somewhere on a spectrum between simple tonality and percussion, the difference is that tonal singing strives for dominance of the fundamental tone while screaming, growling etc. is a much more percussive sound that's "muddied" by the lack of dominance (to varying degrees) of any tone and often contains much more inharmonic overtones (non-integer multiples of the fundamental frequency). I'm no expert but I hope this makes sense.
#15
Drums have pitch but nobody pays attention to the exact note (with 1 or 2 exceptions in the history of music). Screaming is the same principle, but "yelling" or singing a melody with some grittiness like Kurt cobain usually has some sort of written melody.