#1
Hi, I recently decided to buy a whole new rig, I've ordered a Gibson SG, and an eminence loaded 2x12 cab, just need a head. I have a Peavey Bandit 112, it's served me well, but no longer makes the grade.

I'm considering the Jet City JCA100h, the Peavey Windsor, and I've been looking at the Bugera range, but frankly, I don't know which Bugera to pick, and I've heard some bad things about them.

Budget - Around £500

I play a range of styles, but they all come under the banner of rock. From Free to Iron Maiden.

I know the Windsor is a 1 channel amp, and I don't care, cleans aren't a concern.
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#2
I'd go for the Peavey but I've not had any experience with either amp, so I can't really give a fair comparison. It just seems that the Windsor is built for the styles you listed.
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#3
I agree that the Windsor would be a better fit.

You should also look into getting a Boss SD-1 and an EQ pedal. Set the Windsor to sound good for Free (from a quick google search, it looks like they used Plexis), then kick in the OD + EQ for Maiden.
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#4
Cheers, looks like I'm going with the Windsor.
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#5
Personally, I think the JCA is ten times the amp the Windsor is. The Windsor would still be suitable for what you want to play, but the JCA just seems like a much better amp to me.
#6
yeah man for sure jet city. not heard much praise about windsors. like ever.
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yeah man for sure jet city. not heard much praise about windsors. like ever.


Here I am, praising it.

Windsors go for like $250, easy. I forgot the exact number, I want to say $12 - It's ~$12 away from being modded to exact JCM800 specs. It can also be modded to Plexi specs for around the same price.

The Jet City is cool, but the Windsor essentially *is* a Plexi/800.
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#8
Winsdors don't really sound good. I don't care if they are basically Jcm 800 clones, I've olayed them and I've played Jcm 800s and I've never been impressed by the windsor. I like the jet city amps though. Great value and surprisingly well built
#9
I'm biased against JCA because of how bad the 20h and the Picovalve are.

Peavey Windsors have reliability issues. Tried 3 at Guitar Center, and they were all broken. May have been someone else's doing, but still turned me off.

The Valveking now... The cleans are more than usable, even if that's not what you need. The lead channel is really great though. It can do more than well enough for what you need.
#10
laney gh50L

i should add i haven't tried thejet city, though.
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#11
Peavey VTM.


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#13
The Jet City seems like a lovely amp, but the tone I'm going for, seems to be the Windsors territory.

One of my favourite guitar tones ever is in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFtywrOTnHw

From what I can tell, it looks like Justin is using a Dual Rectifier and Dan is using a Plexi.

On another note, I found an insane deal on a Marshall Mode Four, any thoughts?
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On another note, I found an insane deal on a Marshall Mode Four, any thoughts?

Both me and the other guitarsit in my band recorded straight into a Marshall Mode Four for our second demo. I rate it quite highly. If you want to hear some examples of it, you can hear them here: http://artists.ultimate-guitar.com/onlythegood666/music. The songs were: A Target In Your Sight, Devil My Care and Smoke In My Eyes. We both put the gain to '11' on the lead channel but I have no doubt it can achieve both Free and Iron Maiden tones. Hope this helps.
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Both me and the other guitarsit in my band recorded straight into a Marshall Mode Four for our second demo. I rate it quite highly. If you want to hear some examples of it, you can hear them here: http://artists.ultimate-guitar.com/onlythegood666/music. The songs were: A Target In Your Sight, Devil My Care and Smoke In My Eyes. We both put the gain to '11' on the lead channel but I have no doubt it can achieve both Free and Iron Maiden tones. Hope this helps.

That's a pretty cool tone you got going on there, but not quite what I'm going for. I'm kinda looking for an Airbourne/The Darkness kinda tone. Nice tunes btw, sounds quite NWOBHM, reminds me of Blitzkrieg
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That's a pretty cool tone you got going on there, but not quite what I'm going for. I'm kinda looking for an Airbourne/The Darkness kinda tone. Nice tunes btw, sounds quite NWOBHM, reminds me of Blitzkrieg

Oh I know it's not the sound you're specifically looking for. I was going for a NWOBHM tone. I'm just saying it can get that heavy, so that's your Iron Maiden sound sorted. Then if you lower the gain you can get a more crunchy sound ala Free. I didn't have much time to mess around with it as we only had 10 hours to record but I'm sure you could get your 'I Believe In A Thing Called Love' tone out of it no problem. You'd just need to dial back the gain, up the volume and tweak the EQ.
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#17
Quote by Any7423
The Jet City seems like a lovely amp, but the tone I'm going for, seems to be the Windsors territory.

One of my favourite guitar tones ever is in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFtywrOTnHw

From what I can tell, it looks like Justin is using a Dual Rectifier and Dan is using a Plexi.

On another note, I found an insane deal on a Marshall Mode Four, any thoughts?


i wouldn't

i know the tones you're looking at seem to be more marshally (i haven't tried the jetcity, but i've tried a soldano avenger- killer, but a bit more modern than you probably need). that's why i suggested the laney gh50L, especially when you said cleans weren't important. it's basically (far as i'm aware) a hot rodded jcm800. It's far better than a windsor.
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#18
+1 to what Dave said. I think the Jet City would be close enough for a Darkness tone, but a Laney GH50L is more suitable even. It's also a lot nicer than a Windsor... seriously, Windsors may be available for outrageously low prices in the States, but in the UK, a GH50L is only marginally more expensive and just a better amp.

I have one and it does a fine job getting tones like in that video.
#19
ditto

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#20
Dave's Laney suggestion is a very good one for such tones


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Peavey VTM


They built them for just a few years because Marshall got all butthurt since they were practically a JCM800 from the same era. And the best part? Nobody knows about them and they sell for dirt cheap. You can pick up a 120W model for around $250-300. They have little DIP switches on the front and you can really shape their sound for all sorts of tones.
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#21
^ i certainly wasn't suggesting one wouldn't work- i've never tried one, but i've heard pretty much what you're saying about them (and see no reason to doubt it).

Just my only concern is that being in the UK one might be hard to find. A laney would likely be much easier to find (and might be cheaper anyway).

But certainly it'd be worth considering if one comes up.
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#22
I somehow completely missed the UK part of this

Laney GH50L is probably your best bet, considering you're in the UK. If you can track down a VTM it would be a serious contender too. Neither are a 'wrong' choice per say
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#23


i can agree with that
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#25
I'd take the JCA100 over the Windsor but if a GH50L isn't much more expensive I'd grab one of those. The JCA100's are very nice though; got some of that Soldano mojo going on.
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#26
6505, derp.

Seriously though, get the Laney.
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