Poll: what do you guys recon?
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maybe their can be peace and anarchy....
40 50%
man, you one crazy mo'fo
34 43%
Yes, I admit it, i wouldent give up my clean toilet seat for anything in the world
34 43%
chaos.
48 60%
Voters: 80.
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#1
Anarchy is often seen as a form of violence.
and Anarchy is also seen as an ideal created my punk rock.

but we must not forget that anarchy is really nothing more then freedom.

maybe man kind has been telling each other what to do for so long that freedom has become nothing more then a fear?

maybe your afraid of the violence that anarchy would create?

maybe you own a luxurious prison that you would not trade in against freedom?

or maybe you just enjoy the comfort of a nice clean toilet seat?

seriously,i want to know, society just isn't making much sense to me anymore
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#3
Anarchy only works if every single person in the world can be trusted to behave responsibly. That's not the case.
Money beats soul every time.

Money beats soul...every time.

Money...beats soul...every...goddamn...time.
#5
It just wouldn't work. Society needs some kind of system, otherwise it would just be chaos, which really can't be good.
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#6
Quote by Deliriumbassist
If I get elected as President of Europe, my first act will be to prevent those who think anarchism was 'created by punk rock' from breeding by providing them with a slight case of death.

You don't get elected President of Europe. The King of the Inner Planets appoints the president, and the King gains his throne by winning an all-comers rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock tournament.
#7
Anarchy will inevitably lead right back into a political system, because someone will always begin to accumulate and exercise power.
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#8
Anarchy to me is the misguided belief that a loss of order, or even the illusion of it will bring solace. It is the fear of being part of an organized system where freedoms are sacrificed. It is people, facing the absurdity of reality, demanding an escape. It is a desperate hope that things will be any better without a system than they are with one. But I don't think they will be.
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#9
cant peace rise from chaos?
because that's what war seems to be.
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You are a sick man, Riley.
#10
Anarchism is probably one of the most peaceful movements on the planet, of course it has been well tarred and feathered by proponents of capitalism and democracy. http://infoshop.org/page/AnAnarchistFAQ
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#11
Human society cannot function for any worthwhile length of time without some form of political order.
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#12
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You don't get elected President of Europe. The King of the Inner Planets appoints the president, and the King gains his throne by winning an all-comers rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock tournament.


Real men settle arguments and elections with LAN games of AoE2.
#13
Quote by CrAzY-RiLeY
cant peace rise from chaos?
because that's what war seems to be.

Sure it can. But peace can also lead back into turmoil. Conflict is in our nature, and it will remain a part of our reality.
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#14
Quote by Todd Hart
Human society cannot function for any worthwhile length of time without some form of political order.


Anarchy has nothing to do with chaos OR disorder though. Hope one or two people will check out the anarchist faq, it certainly changed my mind about how it all works and how what we have now doesn't.
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#15
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Anarchy will inevitably lead right back into a political system, because someone will always begin to accumulate and exercise power.

this
#16
Anarchy would only ever work if everyone had a mindset similiar to each other at least when it comes to social behaviour. It's a far too hippy of a system to ever work as people don't want to behave in a proper way. People apparently want to kill each other, torture each other and make money by cheating on each other.
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#17
Quote by fortysix&2
Anarchy has nothing to do with chaos OR disorder though. Hope one or two people will check out the anarchist faq, it certainly changed my mind about how it all works and how what we have now doesn't.


Hence why socialism and then communism are the next step in societal development (assuming you align yourself with Marx). Anarchism is an illogical movement.
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#18
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Hence why socialism and then communism are the next step in societal development (assuming you align yourself with Marx). Anarchism is an illogical movement.

Personally (and a few other social anarchists I know) I reckon socialism is just a step to anarchy, obviously a straight switch is too hard (and people have to truly want anarchy, you can't really force it on anyone and no-one should want to do that anyway). While I agree with a lot of what Marx had to say, it still boils down to state capitalism...
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Skills. Get them.
Hair. Grow it to your ass.

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#20
Quote by JohnnyGenzale
Anarchy would only ever work if everyone had a mindset similiar to each other at least when it comes to social behaviour. It's a far too hippy of a system to ever work as people don't want to behave in a proper way. People apparently want to kill each other, torture each other and make money by cheating on each other.


do you?
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You are a sick man, Riley.
#21
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blindly voted in poll. that is representative democracy

Fixed.
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Skills. Get them.
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i can only keep it up for about 30 seconds before my fingers cramp up =[

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#23
Anarchy would never work in our world. It would be fantastic if it did, but really, it wouldn't work out.
#24
I love threads about anarchism. Every other post at least is some dildo chiming "It would never work! Nope!" as if they have actually read intensely about the issue rather than just spatting out some half-witted conclusion based on preconceived notions.
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#25
Quote by CrAzY-RiLeY
do you?


Do I what? Behave in a proper way? Yes, almost always irl.
But I've seen far too much people who don't even put in enough to energy to behave in a proper way to really doubt anarchism. I'd love for it to work but as society works now. No chance in hell. People are already abusing their rights and freedom and give nothing back.

People are in general were demanding and strict when it comes to their rights. But when it comes to their duties and doing good for society to achieve these rights people just look the other way.
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#26
Quote by CrAzY-RiLeY
cant peace rise from chaos?
because that's what war seems to be.

Lol u so stupid!!!
#27
It means one kickass song by KMFDM.

Srsly tho, as an artist i love the idea of peace and Anarchy. I don't care if it would really work, my brain likes it.
#28
Quote by Bob_Sacamano
Anarchy would never work in our world. It would be fantastic if it did, but really, it wouldn't work out.


Are you implying what's going on now is working?
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Skills. Get them.
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i can only keep it up for about 30 seconds before my fingers cramp up =[

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#29
Quote by fortysix&2
Are you implying what's going on now is working?


Maybe he's just saying that, with what we have now. Anarchy would certainly not work better. As it's not really working at the moment either. And putting anarchy on top of what we have now would be even worse.

People's behaviour in general would have to be changed in a dramatic way before anarchy would work.
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#30
Quote by fortysix&2
Are you implying what's going on now is working?


It is certainly working better than anarchism would. For all its flaws, capitalism is amazingly good at incentivising people to work, and as such it is a very efficient political system for inciting scientific and technological process - possibly far more so than any other political system would be. Capitalism has its uses, and until science has progressed sufficiently to ensure the safety and stability of a system not based on capital gain, it is sufficient, and likely a better option than socialism, communism or anarchism would be.
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#31
Quote by JohnnyGenzale
Maybe he's just saying that, with what we have now. Anarchy would certainly not work better. As it's not really working at the moment either. And putting anarchy on top of what we have now would be even worse.

People's behaviour in general would have to be changed in a dramatic way before anarchy would work.


Yep, agreed with the bold section. As I said earlier I reckon we would need an intermediate step to get people to stop relying on their governments to hold them up, just dissolving all government with a click of the fingers wouldn't work. One of the things I love about anarchy is it does actually exist, it works and is happening all over the place if you look hard enough.
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My two pennies- theory. Learn it.
Skills. Get them.
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#33
Quote by AeolianSeventh
Anarchy only works if every single person in the world can be trusted to behave responsibly. That's not the case.


This.


I would identify as an Individual Anarchist while recognizing the idealistic nature of anarchy. It's utopic, ultimate freedom, ultimate peace. But it requires the best out of humanity. Unlikely.
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#34
If everyone shared the exact same morals and standards of social behaviour. Sure. Sadly people don't.
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#35
^All it really would require is ultimate tolerance.
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#36
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^All it really would require is ultimate tolerance.

Really all it needs is for each individual to take on "harm none" as one of their values, it's crazy when you think about how hard this seems to be for people...
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My two pennies- theory. Learn it.
Skills. Get them.
Hair. Grow it to your ass.

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i can only keep it up for about 30 seconds before my fingers cramp up =[

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Sorry, but because you listen to Tool doesn't mean you're intelligent.
#37
Anarchy, as a political movement, is just the ultimate expression of Liberttarianism. The conceit is that humans would, without oversight, settle into a peaceful, egalitarian society.

This is, of course, nonsense. Human beings are heirarchichal creatures. We are naturally drawn to strong leaders.
Chiefs, warlords, kings...all part and parcel of human societies since the dawn of civilization, and likely well before that as well.
#38
Quote by fortysix&2
Really all it needs is for each individual to take on "harm none" as one of their values, it's crazy when you think about how hard this seems to be for people...


The philosophy has been around forever: treat others as you want to be treated, love all of mankind as if they were your brother, love all, serve all, help ever, hurt never.

Good ol' humanity. Ah well, I try and do my part regardless.
“Just to sum up: I would do various things very quickly.” - Donald Trump
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