#1
I'm on me FB and I see this:

"Music is probably the stupidest class any college student has to take!"

No big deal I know some people that didn't enjoy there music classes but then the person reiterated with this.

"Hahaha, no offense ... but I really don't care about the composers, melodies, and other useless information about songs I've never even heard of. I mean, if you like it ... more power to ya pahaha."

Is this really what the common man with no musical knowledge thinks?

This thought just blows my mind, but not as a musician, more so as a person. I would think a person even with no musical knowledge would have some kind of sense about melody or composers. I get that the content of the class might be Jazz or Classical music, but shouldn't the same ideas apply to the music a person like this might like?

I don't know what to think about something like this. Any opinions.
#4
Why would a casual music fan bother with any of that shit? They don't care about chord progressions, song structures, and how different notes harmonize. They only care about primarily what the music sounds like closely followed by the social image they present by associating their musical tastes with a given genre or artist.
#5
Spoiler: not everyone is obsessed with music
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#8
Wait, music courses are mandatory at the college level in the states? wat?
#9
If there's utlity to be made on music and it's easily marketed; that's what music will be promoted to the massses. I hated general music classes because of shitty teachers and it was music history rather than why such music should be listened to instead of Coldplay for example.
#10
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I get that but even at some point don't you think the casual fan would think of something like, "hmm, I like the melody of this song"

Yes, but why would that spur them in some grand quest for knowledge in music theory to determine what exactly makes a melody work and how it relates to the underlying chord progression?

People don't do that shit.

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Wait, music courses are mandatory at the college level in the states? wat?

It probably depends on the school. At my college I don't think music courses themselves are required, but they can fulfill certain general education requirements.

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#11
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Spoiler: not everyone is obsessed with music

I don't think it takes an obsession to be familiar with one of man's greatest social capabilities. No other organism has such an appreciation for the atheistic principles of sound like we do, and we experience music every day of our lives. Seems like willful ignorance to not seek out at least basic knowledge of its structure.
#12
I wouldn't even take it that far RU. My thought is that the Casual listener will be like "Hey, I like this song. The melody is good." Then that's as far as that thought goes. What I got from what I posted is that, that thought doesn't even register to the casual listener. Their listening is so passive that it doesn't even strike up emotion or thought.
#13
Everyone knows musicians are a superior race.
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#14
If their 'reiteration' was to you, I suggest you are better off not biting their bait and responding to statuses like that - yes, some people are ignorant and it's frustrating to see how backwards a lot of humanity has become, but you have equally less business trying to tell someone their opinion is wrong.

Apologies if they directly wrote on your wall/sent you a message to start the thing off though - just take solace in the fact that you can at least appreciate creativity, while they struggle to contemplate the relative complexity of dressing themselves on the days they aren't borrowing the family brain cell.
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#15
A lot of people see it that way, probably.
In my eyes, the arts just as valid an area of study as science or mathematics. We need culture too
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I don't think it takes an obsession to be familiar with one of man's greatest social capabilities. No other organism has such an appreciation for the atheistic principles of sound like we do, and we experience music every day of our lives. Seems like willful ignorance to not seek out at least basic knowledge of its structure.

People who aren't really into it are probably not around it every day, though. You can pretty much choose to partake in it or not. I'm sure there are some things that you and I don't really know much about that people consider "essential".
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#17
No it wasn't directly to me and I did not comment on what was said. It did really make me stop and think though.


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#18
Same reason some people aren't bothered about archaeology or some other subject. It doesn't interest them specifically so why would they want to study it?
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#19
A lot of people see music as just "That catchy song I heard on the radio" and nothing more.

None of the theory, rhythm, melody and harmony crap some of us are so immersed into.
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#20
Music is probably the stupidest college/university course.
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Music is probably the stupidest college/university course.

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#22
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Music is probably the stupidest college/university course.

I dunno, bro. Art history is pretty stupid.
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I have to rEmind myself of this all the time...
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I have to rEmind myself of this all the time...

What exactly is wrong with that fact?
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#26
I don't have anything to add to the thread, but have you taken any music classes at BCCC Jako? Are the teachers any good?

EDIT: Actually I guess it doesn't matter since I won't be there next semester. :/
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#27
Everyone is different and has their own opinions on it. I personally wasn't too fond of music classes in school, but knowing at least a little about it I think is worth it. Not everyone likes the same things as we all do. Have to accept that.
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#28
Quote by WCPhils
I don't have anything to add to the thread, but have you taken any music classes at BCCC Jako? Are the teachers any good?

EDIT: Actually I guess it doesn't matter since I won't be there next semester. :/


I don't know about the music teachers but if you do ever go to BCCC and take any audio production classes, take John Sheridan. He is the man.


Now that I think about it, I think Sheridan teaches ear training and music theory. I know he gives guitar lessons too.
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#30
i've said the same thing about literature classes as well. and i don't really hate reading, i just didn't understand what the big fuss over some of those boring-ass classics was. whenever they turn something into a class, someone down the line is going to make it tedious and boring for everyone else.
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#31
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A lot of people see music as just "That catchy song I heard on the radio" and nothing more.

None of the theory, rhythm, melody and harmony crap some of us are so immersed into.

I play guitar and I don't even know or care much about that stuff. I guess that's just because I mostly play and write hardcore punk where there isn't much of a melody, harmonies or anything other than just a straight, fast rhythm. I can totally understand where these people are coming from. I'm never going to personally use chemistry and I've never been curious about how it works so I'm not going to go out of my way to learn it even though I can enjoy the results of other people understanding and applying chemistry. Some people just like the way music sounds and are content with letting others understand it and apply that knowledge for them to enjoy.
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I play guitar and I don't even know or care much about that stuff. I guess that's just because I mostly play and write hardcore punk where there isn't much of a melody, harmonies or anything other than just a straight, fast rhythm. I can totally understand where these people are coming from. I'm never going to personally use chemistry and I've never been curious about how it works so I'm not going to go out of my way to learn it even though I can enjoy the results of other people understanding and applying chemistry. Some people just like the way music sounds and are content with letting others understand it and apply that knowledge for them to enjoy.



Nice to know there's people like you out there.
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"4/4??? Wtf is this shit"
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#34
Somebody who types 'pahahaha' doesn't surprise me that they don't appreciate music class/history.