#1
Hey guys

Got my Marshall DSL, which is not as cool as I thought it was, I got it second hand so it was dirt cheap but I really want something better. I've never played a Dual Rec and there aren't any stores near me that sell them so I'm gonna have to travel to get one.

Has anyone played them, what are peoples general feelings about them?

From what I hear from youtube clips they sound pretty damn tasty, my only issue is the head being £2000 and the matching cab up to £900, but I suppose I don't have to use the Mesa cab.
#2
its cheaper getting an axe fx, power amp and cab. almost as good too
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#3
Quote by leigh596
its cheaper getting an axe fx, power amp and cab. almost as good too


Nah, no use for me. I'm gigging regularly, definately need at minimum a 2x12 with it.
#4
many artists use it for gigging, you could get a 4x12 if you wanted, a used axe fx ultra and a power amp for £2000 easily
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#5
Live though, I'd much prefer to look the part and not be using that, would rather have the amp.
#6
get cut outs, tape on led's and youre sorted. honestly, its really versatile, and it responds to the volume control like a tube amp. its a win win situation
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#7
As good as the Axe FX is, it still does not get that sound. I sugest yhe TS take a road trip and play a dual if thats what he thinks he wants. Nothing but a Mesa will sound like a Mesa, even I have come to grips with that.
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#8
Get a used Recto and maybe a different cab, like a Marshall with V30s, those can probably be had for pretty cheap. Or maybe a (black) Orange cab if you can find one.

I kind of doubt that you can get an Axe-FX setup for that price.
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#9
This thread is totally useless without knowing what you like, what kind of tones you want. The DSL is a perfectly good amp - the issue is most likely that you got an amp not suited to what you want to play.

So.....

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#10
im selling a used Dual Recto (the better 2 channel version) for £850, so its significantly cheaper to buy a Mesa used. add a Marshall 1936V 2x12 with Vintage 30s in it for about £350 and thats a mesa rig for £1200.

sorted with £800 to spare
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#11
That sounds like a pretty good deal, I'll check out used. But it would not look cool live using axe fx, i'd certainly think it was a bit of a cheat tbh. Nothing beats physically have the amp and i'd pay extra for it.

The tones, well. I love Tremonti, I think he's got a great tone and I know he uses one. They're cleans are great too. I'm looking for real nice cleans and full on hard rock distortion, not too fussed about inbetween like a classic rock sound.
#12
dont get a recto if you want nice cleans....

if you NEED good cleans get a Mark V tbh, or the Roadster but not the normal Rectos they dont cut it compared to the other two i mentioned.

but if you dont you are more than welcome to buy my 2 channel Recto off me

Tremonti uses an Uberschall and a Triple Recto in stereo im pretty sure, at least live he does
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#13
Quote by shredftw
dont get a recto if you want nice cleans....

if you NEED good cleans get a Mark V tbh, or the Roadster but not the normal Rectos they dont cut it compared to the other two i mentioned.

but if you dont you are more than welcome to buy my 2 channel Recto off me

Tremonti uses an Uberschall and a Triple Recto in stereo im pretty sure, at least live he does


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#14
Quote by AJScott
If you haven't sold in a few weeks/months when I've saved it up from not spending anything, I may just do that sir


just hit me up with a PM if you're interested mate
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Quote by AJScott
That sounds like a pretty good deal, I'll check out used. But it would not look cool live using axe fx, i'd certainly think it was a bit of a cheat tbh. Nothing beats physically have the amp and i'd pay extra for it.

The tones, well. I love Tremonti, I think he's got a great tone and I know he uses one. They're cleans are great too. I'm looking for real nice cleans and full on hard rock distortion, not too fussed about inbetween like a classic rock sound.

I'm confused. What does having an Axe FX rig have to do with not having a physical amp? You can get a power amp and plug it into a cab just like any other setup...
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#16
why was the axe even mentioned?

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#17
I would suggest saving up for a Mesa Roadster.
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#18
Quote by AJScott
That sounds like a pretty good deal, I'll check out used. But it would not look cool live using axe fx, i'd certainly think it was a bit of a cheat tbh. Nothing beats physically have the amp and i'd pay extra for it.

The tones, well. I love Tremonti, I think he's got a great tone and I know he uses one. They're cleans are great too. I'm looking for real nice cleans and full on hard rock distortion, not too fussed about inbetween like a classic rock sound.


Then try the Mesa Royal Atlantic, arguably the best cleans and classic rock tones the company has to offer. Plus the definition on high gain is better than recto's. You will not find it at the same price though...

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#19
Quote by Offworld92
I would suggest saving up for a Mesa Roadster.



This.

If ts is gonna be dropping 2k on a new recto, roadster is #1 on my list.

That is knly if he needs the headroom. Otherwise mini rec for sure.
#20
Whoever says Dual Rec cleans suck has obviously never heard a newer Dual Rec.
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#21
^ +1

2 channel dual recs, Rev F and G (the most common ones) had pretty good cleans.

Then 3ch pre 2010 had ok but fully useable cleans.

And 3ch post 2010 and the mini rec all have GREAT cleans

With any of these though you wont have problems with cleans, much better than any 6505+ cleans its just to the degree of how good do you want
#22
^ I haven't tried the new ones yet, but I'd probably prefer the 6505+ cleans over the previous two versions. None are anything to write home about with most setups, but I used to get some fantastic clean tones out of my 6505+ and PRS
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#23
Quote by MatrixClaw
I'm confused. What does having an Axe FX rig have to do with not having a physical amp? You can get a power amp and plug it into a cab just like any other setup...



it doesn't "look cool" enough for him apparently. idk, im from a different train of thought i guess.....you could paint my bogner pink and purple and it wouldnt matter to me as long as it sounded the same....but thats just me i guess.
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Quote by MatrixClaw
^ I haven't tried the new ones yet, but I'd probably prefer the 6505+ cleans over the previous two versions. None are anything to write home about with most setups, but I used to get some fantastic clean tones out of my 6505+ and PRS


Really? Cuz my 6534+ and my Prs get ok cleans but theyre overly bright and somewhat brittle. Theyre very dynamic which is nice though.

I can say for the mini rec for sure that its cleans slaughter compared to my amp. And the older 3ch I recall liking the cleans better on but so far the mini rec is my #1