#1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_-W36goLzc&feature=related

A video of Alex Hutchings performing a song. Anyways, the trick I want to learn is a trick he uses pretty frequently. Go to 1:34 till 1:36. That noise is so awesome.

From what I can see, it's janking/pulling the whammy up a bit for a brief moment. I don't know if its my amp settings, my guitar or my whammy bar but I just can't get it to last longer that a millisecond. I have an ESP Horizon FRII with an Floyd Rose, and when I play a note and pull the bridge up a little, I do hear that 'alien' nose for a moment, but it almost immidiatley stops and goes back to sounding 'normal'.

So, is it the guitar, amp settings, my bridge, the way I play the note??? Please give tips people. Thank you.
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#3
It's a double locking trem. all he is doing is pulling it back to raise the pitch instead of pushing it down to lower the pitch
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#4
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I think it's called gargling, basically flicking the bar, if you rotat the bar so it's away from you, then whack it with your thumb, and it should vibrate a bit. I apologise, my explanation is poor.,
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This.

Basically all you do is flick the bar a bit
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Well, like I said, I AM getting that gargling sound. It's just that this gargling sounds dies after a millisecond, but Alex's gargles sound as long as he wants...
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#6
First off it's called a flutter and second, all you do is flick the bar. All I can say, is practice makes perfect. There's nothing special about how or what he does, it's just he's obviously practiced it.
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Well, like I said, I AM getting that gargling sound. It's just that this gargling sounds dies after a millisecond, but Alex's gargles sound as long as he wants...

Watch the middle finger of his pick hand closely. He flicks the bar for every note he hits.
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First off it's called a flutter and second, all you do is flick the bar. All I can say, is practice makes perfect. There's nothing special about how or what he does, it's just he's obviously practiced it.

It's also called a gargle....

TS, if it's dying quicky I'm guessing you're using a vintage style trem with fairly heavy spring tension. The combination of high tension and the trem having no recess to allow it to move both ways means it's basically NOT going to produce those sounds - really need a floating trem with low tension to be able to pull them off.
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It's also called a gargle....

TS, if it's dying quicky I'm guessing you're using a vintage style trem with fairly heavy spring tension. The combination of high tension and the trem having no recess to allow it to move both ways means it's basically NOT going to produce those sounds - really need a floating trem with low tension to be able to pull them off.


Very much worth emphasizing all this stuff about tension: I know that Alex in fact uses 8 gauge strings so everything on his guitar is pretty low tension, if you're using 9s or heavier in standard then your whole setup is just too tense to allow for that kind of free movement.
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#12
having a decent trem actually helps a load, too. I've never really been able to get substandard trems to gargle/flutter all that well. and a floyd normally gargles better than a vintage style trem (not that he's getting a ton of flutter there, you could do that on a wilky, maybe even a strat-style trem).

just pull up on it a bit and release it

another way of doing it and making it sound like that, which you may prefer, is turn the bar round so it points towards the bottom strap button on your guitar, and whack it. You might find that a little easier than the way he's doing it. (if you leave it the way it is and whack it, you'll also get flutter, but the pitch will go down instead of up, which is what you want if you want it to sound like alex).

EDIT: watched a bit more of the vid. Apparently gurning way more than is healthy will help, too.
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having a decent trem actually helps a load, too. I've never really been able to get substandard trems to gargle/flutter all that well. and a floyd normally gargles better than a vintage style trem (not that he's getting a ton of flutter there, you could do that on a wilky, maybe even a strat-style trem).

just pull up on it a bit and release it

another way of doing it and making it sound like that, which you may prefer, is turn the bar round so it points towards the bottom strap button on your guitar, and whack it. You might find that a little easier than the way he's doing it. (if you leave it the way it is and whack it, you'll also get flutter, but the pitch will go down instead of up, which is what you want if you want it to sound like alex).

EDIT: watched a bit more of the vid. Apparently gurning way more than is healthy will help, too.

+1

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^ yeah the jt580s i've tried always felt really clunky (only tried them in the shop, though). yet loads of people say they're one of the best licensed trems.

and yeah i have a kramer trem which is very clunky like that, and my lo-trs is a bit better (though doesn't stay in tune as well) but still nowhere near a good trem.

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