#1
Okay, here is a raw track (no processing) with two identical riffs - one played with a Dual Rec and the other with a Fireball.

Tell me which one you think is better, and rate the tones. If you prefer one over the other, please let me know why

Thanks in advance!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13321068/demo.mp3
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#2
I like the second one better, whichever that is haha. Hard to rate tone for me though, as it's all preference really. I preferred the second just because it sounded that little bit more tight and evil. Had a certain amount of aggression the other just didn't have.
#3
Im going for a djenty/progressive death metal kind of tone, but with a strong melodeath influence. Some tones I really like include Trivium (Torn Between Scylla and Charybdis and In Waves), and bands like Periphery, Meshuggah, All That Remain, etc.
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#6
incorrect. Second is the Dual Rec, First is the Fireball.
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#8
No, I never put my gain past 50% except for lead tones. For a tight tone you wanna keep the gain low. Ill have to redo this recording, Ive been tweaking the Fireball and it sounds a lot better now. Now it's more tight and beefy. The signal flow goes like this - Noise Gate -> Tube Screamer (50% bass, 60% tone, 50% treble, 0% Gain, 100% Output) -> Fireball (Gain 35%, Bass 75%, Mids 75%, Treble 70% and Presence 70%)
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#9
If you're going for djent, I'd definitely say the second one then, with a noise suppressor of course. Though I know Trivium use Peavey and Periphery don't even use amps, they use those Axe-FX things.
#10
Trivium actually uses Axe Fx's too now lol.
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#11
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Trivium actually uses Axe Fx's too now lol.


Oh, didn't know they'd made the jump. I assume it has only been since In Waves? What noise gate do you use btw? I'm in the market for one at the moment (learning some songs from In Waves funnily enough). I'll be waiting for that new sound clip too, as I'm looking at those two amps myself, also looking at the Diamond Nitrox, but it's hard to get info on.
#12
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incorrect. Second is the Dual Rec, First is the Fireball.


interesting, that's the opposite from what i'd have thought

not sure which i preferred more. i liked the second one better at the start, but then when the palm-muted stuff started i didn't like it as much
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#13
rec. im partial to them. its a clear decision. when i think rectifier i think enter sandman. i love that heavy bone crushing tone opposed to a higher pitches, higher attack type tone
#14
dual rec (I own a dual rec roadster that I picked over an Engl). I found the engl to be a little to brittle on the top end- it was hard to make it clear and not overly bassy without having too crispy (fizzy, almost like excessive presence) a top end. I also find the mesa can sound heavier without the bass getting too flabby (they can both get flabby on the bottom end if you really dial them up, but the mesa seemed to address this more ably).

your cab and speaker choice will also make a huge difference. I personally hate a dual rec through a dual rec cab, its way too boomy and flabby for me. I prefer a marshall style cab (I use a traynor with 3 G12's and 1 V30- I mike the V30 but the G12's keep the cab from sounding too bass heavy) with the Dual rec, but I found myself liking the engl better with a dual rec cab as it seemed to help the bottom end feel more open.
#15
Liked the Dual Rec more, however, the recording is pretty poor TBH.
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#16
Tbh, the recording on both sucks. I can't judge, but based on this if you are gonna do the setting like this i'd tell you go get a modelling amp till you know how to record something better. That was one of the worst Mesa Boogie sounds i've ever heard in my life.
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#17
Both sounded muddy to be honest and not really much different from eachother.