#1
no i dont want a new amp

yes i am aware that you all think v's are shit (i play in classical position, v's are the most comfortable electrics to me)

Now that that's out of the way... I'm real close to buying this, but I really don't wanna dish out that much cash for something Chinese or Indonesian. Does anyone know where these guitars are made? And are they put together decently?

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#2
I remember Musicians Friend really pumping the X Series when it first came out a few weeks ago. I'm fairly certain they're Japanese guitars
#3
I'm pretty sure they are Japanese guitars.

Seems like a decent buy, if you can deal with the passive EMG's and the basswood body.
As far as I know, Japanese made Jacksons are pretty durable, but they are getting more and more overpriced since Fender bought them a few years ago.

As an example, I bought a 2008 Demmelition King V with an original floyd for 1600$ taxes included. But now, they are sold close to 1900 taxes not included and they replaced the OFR by a shitty Korean FRT-0200.

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#4
Probably not chinese made, but even if it was what would it matter. Jackson has a history of selling great guitars around this price so wouldnt that be enough to go on. Besides the best guitar I have ever owned was made in indonesia. And thats including the fact that ive had guitars made in china, korea, and I had 1 that was american. Where its made is a moot point, whats more important is who it was made by. Were the builders hand picked, experienced, and careful or were they a bunch of random people who are there solely to collect a paycheck.
#6
they're made in india, as far as i'm aware. EDIT: ^ dangit, ninja'd Still, i'll happily be ninja'd by an accurate post every day of the week

jeez, if you don't know, don't post. the older x-series was japanese, but the new ones aren't.
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#7
i'm sayin though. it legitimately does not matter where your guitar is made, as long as you like it. Like, i understand why people ask where their guitar is made because it's a (very) general indicator of the quality they can expect. but really, it doesn't matter. On topic though, I think they're made in japan
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#8
it legitimately does if they're not made as well, or use substandard parts or wood etc.

it also legitimately does if you're willing to pay more for living wages

also, as i said, INDIA
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#9
This ^

I'm 99% sure its MII

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#11
It's not like america and japan use magic robots to make their guitars, there all just guitars it's spec'd quite nicely it may be made in India, but all that means is its a bit more likely to be a lemon. With the way American and Japanese manufacture are going the difference is less marked than it used to be.

Above all else this means that you should play before you buy, if its not in local guitar stores drive somewhere else if that's impossible buy something else.
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#12
^ no-one said anything about magic. generally speaking (and yes, there are some exceptions, but few enough that that's what they are- exceptions) USA- or Japan-made instruments are made to higher tolerances, and with higher quality parts, wood and workmanship. It's not a fluke, they're designed to be that way.

I'd also say it's not really anything to do with lemons (though you probably do get more lemons in the cheaper ranges)- a flawless cheaper guitar from a lower range will not be as good as a flawless guitar from a dearer range. it's designed to not be as good.



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yeah, the new x series isn't mij as far as i'm aware
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#13
Unless i missed it somewhere above me - How old is the one your looking at buying?

If your buying new then I'd expect Indian, if it was a little older than there is a chance it will be MIJ.

There nothing wrong with the MII but if you fish around the used market you may be able to pick up a sweet MIJ + save some cash. I firmly believe there is a difference between the two, the mii is nice, but everything just seems to be a little more refined on the Japanese versions.

Oh, and for what its worth, I dont think V's are shit.
#14
If you play the guitar and it meets your needs and you like it, then get it. No one can fault you there. I would be careful of buying one of these without trying it first, however. Currently with Jackson, made in USA > Japan > everything else. This is because the USA factory uses the highest quality parts, construction, along with inspection and hand done processes that do not exist in there other factories. There's a reason for the price difference between where they are made. It has more to do with quality parts and a quality building process. The reasons the X series guitars are so much cheaper is because they use lower quality woods and parts along with a building process that will cut corners to save time and money.
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There nothing wrong with the MII but if you fish around the used market you may be able to pick up a sweet MIJ + save some cash. I firmly believe there is a difference between the two, the mii is nice, but everything just seems to be a little more refined on the Japanese versions.

Good idea, check out what I found: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Jackson-KVX10-King-V-Electric-Guitar-Black-/200722539019?pt=Guitar&hash=item2ebbfee20b

MIJ and everything, look legit?

EDIT:
Specifically, this guitar has had a major headstock repair


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#17
Yeah I would avoid that one - but the idea its self has merit.
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the USA factory uses the highest quality parts, construction, along with inspection and hand done processes that do not exist in there other factories.


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I own a Jackson USA DK1. I've previously owned many Japanese Jacksons because I never wanted to fork over the cash for a USA model. I'm glad I finally did, because there is really no comparison. Everything about my USA model is better than my Japanese Jacksons, real mother of pearl, the neck is oiled and not clear coated, higher quality body wood, the flamed maple top is much thicker, maybe 1/8 inch, where as on Japanese made models you can easily sand right through it (if it even has a maple veneer). Original Floyd Rose, vs Jackson licensed, metal covers instead of plastic, higher quality electronics, and I could keep going. Most of these things really effect the sound. Finally, when you buy a USA Jackson you get a tag that specifies who was responsible for each stage in the making of your guitar along with the final inspection sign off.
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Okay guys, a few of you here have the right information, the others not so much!


The X series was introduced some time around the turn of the millennium, made in India. Pretty soon they were switched to Japan and were made there for about ten years at Chushin Gakki alongside the Pro and MG series.

Last year Jackson revamped the X series and moved production to the Harmony Musical Instruments factory in Chennai, India. The same factory that builds their entry level JS range.

Since the series has only just been revamped, there's plenty of the older Japanese models still floating around, even though they've now been discontinued. Generally speaking, the older Japanese X series guitars are a lot more basic on the feature list - bolt on necks, unbound fretboards, Duncan Designed pups and Jackson licensed Floyds. And so on. They have model names like DX10D and KVX10.

The newer Indian models use the cheaper build to ramp up the specs while staying at the same price point - these models are neck through (aside from the Dinky), have bound fretboards, most have EMGs and Floyd Specials. Their model names take the form of KVXMG, SLXMG, SLXT, RRXT etc.

I haven't played any, but judging by the general opinion of a lot of Jackson fans, they're good guitars for the price. The build quality tends to be pretty good aside from the occasional small cosmetic flaw and they play nicely. They won't match the high end stuff, but for something like one fifth the price you wouldn't expect them to. But, as I said that's second hand information. Play one yourself.
#21
Does no one on this site realize what MSRP is or how it works? MSRP is always higher than street price. Musicians Friend has that guitar priced at $550.

Also I'm pretty sure most lower end Jackson stuff is made in India.
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#22
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I own a Jackson USA DK1. I've previously owned many Japanese Jacksons because I never wanted to fork over the cash for a USA model. I'm glad I finally did, because there is really no comparison. Everything about my USA model is better than my Japanese Jacksons, real mother of pearl, the neck is oiled and not clear coated, higher quality body wood, the flamed maple top is much thicker, maybe 1/8 inch, where as on Japanese made models you can easily sand right through it (if it even has a maple veneer). Original Floyd Rose, vs Jackson licensed, metal covers instead of plastic, higher quality electronics, and I could keep going. Most of these things really effect the sound. Finally, when you buy a USA Jackson you get a tag that specifies who was responsible for each stage in the making of your guitar along with the final inspection sign off.


Fair enough, it'd just you spoke as if you'd been to the factory or something. USA Jackson's superior hardware and materials is reflected in the price, and a tag saying who inspected it doesn't mean the Japanese don't inspect it either

I have a Jap Jackson KE3 and it's a fantastic guitar for the money, even the licensed FR is good, and that's saying something. I've always lusted after a USA Kelly though...
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Also I'm pretty sure most lower end Jackson stuff is made in India.


Yes, as I said in the post right before yours! They're made at Harmony Musical Instruments in Chennai.