#1
Hello!
This summer i'm gettin a new amp!Currently i have a crappy Stagg :/.So.... it's a really hard choice since i have no experience with amps etc.
So i would some help please! Here is my gear :
Guitar : Ibanez Art320-BLS (link: http://www.thomann.de/gr/ibanez_art320bls.htm )
And i also have a Toneworks PX4D Pandora
My favourite bands are Metallica,Iron Maiden and GNR
Budget : 400~600 €
I would love if i could get a sound a little similar to Master of Puppets for example but i also need a nice clean sound!

UPDATE: What about the Bugera 6260-212 Infinium ( It's a lot of watts though) , Bugera V55 and VHT Lead 20 Combo AVGT1-20 ? ?

Thanks!!!
Last edited by ans17 at Mar 23, 2012,
#2
Planning on gigging or bedroom practice?
Guitars & Gear:
Parker Nitefly M
Sumer Metal Driver
Ibanez RGD2120Z
AMT SS-11B
Two Notes Torpedo CAB
#4
blackstar ht5 is great on a budget and low volumes, maybe put a tubescreamer/badmonkey in front of it to tighten it up?
#5
Quote by ans17
bedroom practice!
I dont mind about the watts though!

Your neighbours might though

OT: ^ For someone not in the UK I'm not sure how easy it will be for you to get a HT-5. I personally, am thinking of getting a POD (HT-5 a bit too loud most of the time), you might want to look into DI alternatives.
Guitars & Gear:
Parker Nitefly M
Sumer Metal Driver
Ibanez RGD2120Z
AMT SS-11B
Two Notes Torpedo CAB
Last edited by Emperor's Child at Mar 16, 2012,
#6
I'll propably order the amp from Thomann!
Anyway i checked the HT-5 and I think it's pretty good , specially if I get a tubescreamer too
Thanks a lot! It's a lot of time until i get the amp ... so i'm open to other suggestions!
#7
JCA2212. Very nice little amp. Not sure if you can get them in the UK though...
#8
traynor ycv50b on thomann

the harley benton vintage overdrive is a ts808 clone for like 29 euro. pick it up while you're at it.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#9
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JCA2212. Very nice little amp. Not sure if you can get them in the UK though...
$ implies he isn't in the UK...
Guitars & Gear:
Parker Nitefly M
Sumer Metal Driver
Ibanez RGD2120Z
AMT SS-11B
Two Notes Torpedo CAB
#10
Quote by JDRed
JCA2212. Very nice little amp. Not sure if you can get them in the UK though...


hmm thanks ... I checked this one and it's great but i don't like the overdrive that much...though a pedal could fix that... but then it would be quite expensive!


Quote by Dave_Mc
traynor ycv50b on thomann

the harley benton vintage overdrive is a ts808 clone for like 29 euro. pick it up while you're at it.


Well found some reviews and youtube videos and I like the sound!Ill definately take this amp into consideration
Thank you!
Last edited by ans17 at Mar 17, 2012,
#12
Quote by Ian_the_fox
What you really need is a Carvin V3Mc. Save up $100 extra bucks, it'll be worth it.


hmm ... there isn't one any of these on Thomann!From which site do you suggest?
#13
Quote by ans17
hmm ... there isn't one any of these on Thomann!From which site do you suggest?
Oh, so you are in Europe; damn. I can't recommend it to you as it's more expensive overseas. Carvin has a list of places they deal through on the amp's page though, if you are still willing to check it out: http://www.carvinworld.com/products/V3MC

You could also check out the Jet City JCA5012c. That's in your budget and has all the power do what you want, though to get an exact Metallica sound you'll need a graphic EQ.
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Quote by ans17

Well found some reviews and youtube videos and I like the sound!Ill definately take this amp into consideration
Thank you!




it's hard to beat for the money in europe.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#15
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Oh, so you are in Europe; damn. I can't recommend it to you as it's more expensive overseas. Carvin has a list of places they deal through on the amp's page though, if you are still willing to check it out: http://www.carvinworld.com/products/V3MC

You could also check out the Jet City JCA5012c. That's in your budget and has all the power do what you want, though to get an exact Metallica sound you'll need a graphic EQ.


Yeah i'm from Europe, Greece to be exact!
The JCA5012c seems to be a very nice amp!
Thanks a lot!

Right now I'm between the Jet City JCA5012c and blackstar ht5 with tubescreamer pedal!
#17
i think the traynor would be better than either of those two- it's kinda marshally, is made in canada, has a ply cabinet and has a good stock speaker. it doesn't really need any upgrades, it's a decent amp out of the box. compared to the other two (which, granted, i haven't tried), one of which (BS) is a hybrid and a low wattage so if you ever did gig it wouldn't be much use, and the jet city which is based on a soldano, but a cheaper chinese-made version of one, and also might be a bit too modern-sounding (could be wrong).

i'd take the jet city over the blackstar, though.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#18
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i think the traynor would be better than either of those two- it's kinda marshally, is made in canada, has a ply cabinet and has a good stock speaker. it doesn't really need any upgrades, it's a decent amp out of the box. compared to the other two (which, granted, i haven't tried), one of which (BS) is a hybrid and a low wattage so if you ever did gig it wouldn't be much use, and the jet city which is based on a soldano, but a cheaper chinese-made version of one, and also might be a bit too modern-sounding (could be wrong).

i'd take the jet city over the blackstar, though.


I see ... I didn't mention it cause i found like 1 or 2 videos on youtube with this one and I didn't really like the distortion!But I think that the guitarists were a little sloppy :P
So ... if you have tried the amp yourself and think that it has a decent distortion then I'll certainly think about gettin this one instead!
#19
i've tried the 40 watt version- the 40's basically almost exactly the same, except it uses 6L6 tubes (el34s are more "marshally") and has a worse speaker.

yeah i thought it had a pretty decent overdrive channel. I mean it's no 5150, but then i wouldn't use a 5150 for gnr or maiden anyway.

but if you really care about distortion the jet city might be a better idea. i know the soldano avenger i tried was awesome, but how close the jet city is, i have no idea.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#20
Quote by Dave_Mc
but if you really care about distortion the jet city might be a better idea. i know the soldano avenger i tried was awesome, but how close the jet city is, i have no idea.
It's pretty damn close, but it's no Soldano. Still good though.

It at least justifies the $2000 price difference.
#21
Quote by Ian_the_fox
It's pretty damn close, but it's no Soldano. Still good though.

It at least justifies the $2000 price difference.



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i've tried the 40 watt version- the 40's basically almost exactly the same, except it uses 6L6 tubes (el34s are more "marshally") and has a worse speaker.

yeah i thought it had a pretty decent overdrive channel. I mean it's no 5150, but then i wouldn't use a 5150 for gnr or maiden anyway.

but if you really care about distortion the jet city might be a better idea. i know the soldano avenger i tried was awesome, but how close the jet city is, i have no idea.


ok so i guess i'm getting the Jet City one unless someone come with a better option!
Thanks a bunch for your help!
Last edited by ans17 at Mar 23, 2012,
#22
Hey I was just wondering ...... what about the peavy vypyr 30/100 ? I heard it's good and it's really cheap! Does it worth it?
#23
i haven't tried it, but if it's like any of the other cheap modellers i've tried, it's probably alright, but i'd much rather have a tube amp
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#24
aha i see also what about the Line6 Spider IV 30 ,Fender Mustang II,Marshall MG102CFX and Vox VT80+?
#25
tube's better

the spider's terrible, so's the marshall mg. the mustang and vox (haven't tried either) have the rep of being decent for cheaper modellers, but that's still what they are.

The thing is, you don't need a bazillion different tones for the stuff you're playing- those bands you listed have reasonably similar tones. tube is the way to go for that, if you ask me.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#26
Quote by Dave_Mc
tube's better

the spider's terrible, so's the marshall mg. the mustang and vox (haven't tried either) have the rep of being decent for cheaper modellers, but that's still what they are.

The thing is, you don't need a bazillion different tones for the stuff you're playing- those bands you listed have reasonably similar tones. tube is the way to go for that, if you ask me.


uhh .... you're right! I really dont need all these effects to play what i want!I just need a good tone!

So for once again :P I searched and came up with some tube amps!
What about Bugera 6260-212 Infinium ( It's a lot of watts though) , Bugera V55 and VHT Lead 20 Combo AVGT1-20 ?
#27
bugera 6260 would work, but i still say it's too modern (haven't tried it, just going by the 5150 that it's allegedly based on)

the v55 might be too far the other way i.e. too vintage.

no idea about the vht. I haven't tried any of those 3.

i still say it'll be hard to beat the traynor. or maybe the jet city (haven't tried) if you want more od.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#28
If you wait like.. a week, I'll give you a full on review of the Jet City that JUST came through my door. It's a JCA20h, which ill be running through a 1x12 combo with a Celestion V30.

Might even be able to record some sound clips or something
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#29
Quote by Dave_Mc
bugera 6260 would work, but i still say it's too modern (haven't tried it, just going by the 5150 that it's allegedly based on)

the v55 might be too far the other way i.e. too vintage.

no idea about the vht. I haven't tried any of those 3.

i still say it'll be hard to beat the traynor. or maybe the jet city (haven't tried) if you want more od.


I see... Thanks a lot for your time! I really appreciate this!

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If you wait like.. a week, I'll give you a full on review of the Jet City that JUST came through my door. It's a JCA20h, which ill be running through a 1x12 combo with a Celestion V30.

Might even be able to record some sound clips or something


I have plenty of time until I order my amp! So i would love that if it isn't much trouble!
Thanks
#30
the 6260 has no headroom, so it's has no good cleans, but the 6262 fixed that ''problem'', you should go for the 6262 if you really need cleans, i dont have the amp tho, its only what bugera's youtube channel told me
#31
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I see... Thanks a lot for your time! I really appreciate this!


no problem
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#32
Quote by holywins183
the 6260 has no headroom, so it's has no good cleans, but the 6262 fixed that ''problem'', you should go for the 6262 if you really need cleans, i dont have the amp tho, its only what bugera's youtube channel told me


The 6260 actually has a very decent clean channel, better than my current 6505+ clean channel, especially after being biased. The 6260 has TONS of clean headroom, in that that it is 120 watts, the power amp doesn't even think about breaking up until about 7 or 8 on the volume knob, however, even the clean channel has potential for plenty of preamp distortion, but even with the gain knob dimed you can still pull nice cleans with the right picking dynamics.
Back on topic, TS, I would highly recommend listening to dave on this one, the Traynor is well suited to your needs, and they make fantastic products. Jet city make great products as well, but they may not be voiced correctly for the sounds you are looking for, though they do sound good. The modelers you mentioned are not appropriate for your needs from what I can tell, as they are practice amps more or less, and you seem to want to upgrade from your current practice amp. The 6260 will do what you want, but it will not excel at it, again it is not voiced correctly, and will not hit any of those tones on the head. The VHT I can't comment on, I haven't played it nor have I heard any extensive reviews or consensus on it.
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#33
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#35
Ok then I'm propably getting the Traynor instead!
The only reason I kept recomending SS amps is that I'm a little worried about the tubes!
#36
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The only reason I kept recomending SS amps is that I'm a little worried about the tubes!

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#37
Quote by ans17
Ok then I'm propably getting the Traynor instead!
The only reason I kept recomending SS amps is that I'm a little worried about the tubes!


As long as you're careful not to drop or bash the amp too hard, you shouldnt have a problem!
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#40
Also about the Pandora px4d....
Should I use it with the tube amp to get better distortion or do you think it will screw up my tone?