#1
So, as the title suggests, I am trying to transcribe a scale from standard to a different tuning. More specifically, Drop C (CGCFAD). I searched on the forums but could not find anything that would show how to do that.
For instance, if I wanted to play the C major scale in Drop C, how would it differ from playing it in standard?

e|----------------------------------------------0-1-3------------|
B|--------------------------------------0-1-3--------------------|
G|---------------------------------0-2---------------------------|
D|-------------------------0-2-3---------------------------------|
A|-----------------0-2-3-----------------------------------------|
E|---------0-1-3-------------------------------------------------|

D|---------------------------------------------------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------------------|
F|---------------------------------------------------------------|
C|---------------------------------------------------------------|
G|---------------------------------------------------------------|
C|---------------------------------------------------------------|
and how can I repeat that process to transcribe any other scale?
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
#2
What are the notes in the scale? Write them out.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#3
just think: drop C is the guitar tuned down one step (two frets), with the lowest string tuned down ANOTHER step.
so take that tab and move every number up 2, but move the lowest string up 4.

OOOOOR you could skip all this retarded math and transposing and just learn the names of the notes on the fretboard.

another way, is you could just think of it as playing in the key of D. (playing in the key of D in dropped D tuning is the same shape as playing in the key of C in dropped C tuning).

there is many ways to do it, but in the long run the best is to learn theory, learn basic transposing skills, and learn the fretboard.
just my two cents.
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#4
e|----------------------------------------------0-1-3------------|
B|--------------------------------------0-1-3--------------------|
G|---------------------------------0-2---------------------------|
D|-------------------------0-2-3---------------------------------|
A|-----------------0-2-3-----------------------------------------|
E|---------0-1-3-------------------------------------------------|


from bottom to top

E-F-G-A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C
#5
Quote by InsaneVendetta
e|----------------------------------------------0-1-3------------|
B|--------------------------------------0-1-3--------------------|
G|---------------------------------0-2---------------------------|
D|-------------------------0-2-3---------------------------------|
A|-----------------0-2-3-----------------------------------------|
E|---------0-1-3-------------------------------------------------|


from bottom to top

E-F-G-A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C

i dont understand why you told us the notes.
if you knew them in the first place why do you need to ask us?
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#6
i would like very much to learn theory, basic transposing skills and learn the fretboard. any tips/websites or something to help? I don't know any music theory really, I'm just starting out...
#7
i know the notes, but how do i transpose that scale to drop c?
i know its probably simple but i dont understand...
#8
Yeah, just follow music theories Idea. Pretty much when you transcribe from C to Standard its just going down to frets. So, you can play anything from standard tune in drop c and all you got to do is just move down two frets.
#9
think about it.
-take the D major scale shape in dropped D tuning
-tune down to drop C
-play that SAME shape (same frets and everything)
-you are now playing the C major scale.

thats because drop C tuning is drop D tuning with every string tuned down one step, and the D major scale is one step above the C major scale.
see?

or you could take that shape you tabbed out, Add 2 to every string, and then add ANOTHER 2 to the lowest string.
ex: e-----0-1-3---- is now: e------2-3-5------

comprende?

if you want more detail i can give it to you, i enjoy helping.
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#10
Learn the notes on your fretboard. If you down tune a string by one semitone, you have to fret one fret higher to get the same note.




0---1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8---9---10--11--12--13--14--15----|

e|--f---f#--g---g#--a---a#--b---c---c#--d---d#--e---f---f#--g----|
B|--c---c#--d---d#--e---f---f#--g---g#--a---a#--b---c---c#--d----|
G|--g#--a---a#--b---c---c#--d---d#--e---f---f#--g---g#--a---a#---|
D|--d#--e---f---f#--g---g#--a---a#--b---c---c#--d---d#--e---f----|
A|--a#--b---c---c#--d---d#--e---f---f#--g---g#--a---a#--b---c----|
E|--f---f#--g---g#--a---a#--b---c---c#--d---d#--e---f---f#--g----|


0---1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8---9---10--11--12--13--14--15----|

D|--d#--e---f---f#--g---g#--a---a#--b---c---c#--d---d#--e---f-----|
A|--a#--b---c---c#--d---d#--e---f---f#--g---g#--a---a#--b---c-----|
F|--f#--g---g#--a---a#--b---c---c#--d---d#--e---f---f#--g---g#----|
C|--c#--d---d#--e---f---f#--g---g#--a---a#--b---c---c#--d---d#----|
G|--g#--a---a#--b---c---c#--d---d#--e---f---f#--g---g#--a---a#----|
C|--c#--d---d#--e---f---f#--g---g#--a---a#--b---c---c#--d---d#----|
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
Last edited by Hydra150 at Mar 16, 2012,
#11
okay i kinda get it, but im still shaky on it... you said add another 2 to the lowest string...
so thats adding 4 to the lowest string right?
so 4-5-8 for the lowest string?
i just got confused by the whole add another 2 to the lowest string but its still 2-3-5 from 0-1-3. so thats only adding 2 but you said add 4 for the lowest string?
you probably think im retarded at this point... haha.
#13
Ill try make it clearer - all of the blue notes are in the C major scale (CDEFGABC - no flats and no sharps, the simplest key).



0---1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8---9---10--11--12--13--14--15----|

e|--F---f#--G---g#--A---a#--B---C---c#--D---d#--E---F---f#--G----|
B|--C---c#--D---d#--E---F---f#--G---g#--A---a#--B---C---c#--D----|
G|--g#--A---a#--B---C---c#--D---d#--E---F---f#--G---g#--A---a#---|
D|--d#--E---F---f#--G---g#--A---a#--C---c---c#--D---d#--E---F----|
A|--a#--B---C---c#--D---d#--E---F---f#--G---g#--A---a#--b---C----|
E|--F---f#--G---g#--A---a#--B---C---c#--D---d#--E---F---f#--G----|


0---1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8---9---10--11--12--13--14--15----|

D|--d#--E---F---f#--G---g#--A---a#--B---C---c#--D---d#--E---F-----|
A|--a#--B---C---c#--D---d#--E---F---f#--G---g#--A---a#--B---C-----|
F|--f#--G---g#--A---a#--B---C---c#--D---d#--E---F---f#--G---g#----|
C|--c#--D---d#--E---F---f#--G---g#--A---a#--B---C---c#--D---d#----|
G|--g#--A---a#--B---C---c#--D---d#--E---F---f#--G---g#--A---a#----|
C|--c#--D---d#--E---F---f#--G---g#--A---a#--B---C---c#--D---d#----|


Yep, a semitone is a half step (two semitones is a tone).

edit: Look at the second fret on the second diagram (the one in drop C) - notice that the notes on the second fret are DADGBE, which is the same as the open strings in drop D tuning. Drop tuning is like using a magic reverse capo.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
Last edited by Hydra150 at Mar 17, 2012,
#14
sorry for the triple post... but I think i know how to translate it now, ill show what I think it is. Please tell me if any of its wrong.
e|----------------------------------------------0-1-3------------|
B|--------------------------------------0-1-3--------------------|
G|---------------------------------0-2---------------------------|
D|-------------------------0-2-3---------------------------------|
A|-----------------0-2-3-----------------------------------------|
E|---------0-1-3-------------------------------------------------|

D|---------------------------------------2-3-5-------------------|
A|-------------------------------2-3-5---------------------------|
F|--------------------------2-4-----------------------------------|
C|-----------------2-4-5-----------------------------------------|
G|---------2-4-5-------------------------------------------------|
C|-2-4-5---------------------------------------------------------|

am i getting off to the right start? or how do i know where to start, would i start with d ? 2?

EDIT: thanks hyrda for the chart
Last edited by InsaneVendetta at Mar 17, 2012,
#15
You will probably have to change the fingering of the scale a bit as the lowered sixth to fifth string will be a bit of a stretch. Ill tab it out for you like you want but you really gotta learn the fundamentals of music theory so you will be able to work this stuff out for yourself easily. This may be a good start.


e|-----------------------------------------0-1-3------------|
B|---------------------------------0-1-3--------------------|
G|----------------------------0-2---------------------------|
D|--------------------0-2-3---------------------------------|
A|------------0-2-3-----------------------------------------|
E|----0-1-3-------------------------------------------------|




This tab is pretty much meaningless. What is much more important is the orange/turquoise diagrams in my previous post - really look at that and try playing the notes and understand what is going on. Learn the notes of the fretboard.

*edited to make this post confusing*
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
Last edited by Hydra150 at Mar 21, 2012,
#16
Vendetta, your version is a bit wrong; Refer to the diagrams of the coloured notes in my other post - what note is at the second fret on the drop C diagram? You got all the other strings right but you forgot to consider that the lowest string is an additional tone/two frets lower when you are using a drop tuning.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#17
okay, thank you. ill play this a bit tonight and try to understand whats going on and ill get back on this thread tomorrow
#18
What you should do is, under each diagram, write the name of the note that corresponds to the tab, like this;


e|----------------------------| etc
B|----------------------------| etc
G|---------------------------| etc
D|--------------------0------| etc
A|------------0-2-3---------| etc
E|----0-1-3-----------------| etc

notes-E-F-G---A-B-C---D------| etc


Refer to the coloured diagrams in my post to find out what the note names are. (or indeed use any fretboard diagram + basic maths)

(use the font 'courier new' for tab, the spacing is better)
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
Last edited by Hydra150 at Mar 17, 2012,
#19

e|---------------------------------------3-5--------------| B|------------------------------3-5-6--------------------| G|----------------------2-4-5----------------------------| D|--------------2-3-5-----------------------------------| A|------2-3-5-------------------------------------------| E|--3-5---------------------------------------------------|
GA BCD EFG ABC DEF GA
D|----------------------------------------5-7------------| A|--------------------------------5-7-8------------------| F|------------------------4-6-7----------------------------| C|---------------4-5-7----------------------------------| G|-------4-5-7------------------------------------------| C|--7-9---------------------------------------------------|
GA BCD EFG ABC DEF GA

This seems to not sound right... but its my best guess as to the next part of the C Major scale. any tips on what i may have done wrong?
#21
Quote by InsaneVendetta

e|---------------------------------------3-5---|
B|------------------------------3-5-6----------|
G|----------------------2-4-5------------------|
D|--------------2-3-5--------------------------|
A|------2-3-5----------------------------------|
E|--3-5----------------------------------------|
----GA---BCD----EFG----ABC------DEF-----GA
D|----------------------------------------5-7-|
A|--------------------------------5-7-8-------|
F|------------------------4-6-7---------------|
C|---------------4-5-7------------------------|
G|-------4-5-7--------------------------------|
C|--7-9---------------------------------------|
----GA----BCD----EFG-------ABC----DEF----GA


This seems to not sound right... but its my best guess as to the next part of the C Major scale. any tips on what i may have done wrong?



You tell me - does it sound the same?


It certainly looks right to me, I dont have a detuned guitar to check but the numbers look right. However, you are jumping from the A on the ninth fret (presumably played with yer pinky) to the B on the fourth fret - quite a leap, you should take this into account when changing tunings rather than just shifting each string up or down a set number, else stuff could become unplayable. Consider shifting the entire thing to a different position.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
Last edited by Hydra150 at Mar 21, 2012,
#22
my guitar was not tuned right, my new strings stretched out and became untuned lol.
well, yeah it sounds right now.
but is there anyway i can learn to tab it out so that the shifts are easier to do?
i guess if i understood more of what im doing i would know how to make an easier tab to play