#1
Hey all,

So I'm curious - take the Jimmy Page Number 2 as an example, in the UK these retail for about £5,000 second hand on eBay, yet a regular Gibson Les Paul Standard sells for about £1,500 give or take brand new - aside from the fact that it has Jimmy Page's name on it and a couple of other features, is it worth paying £3,000 more for a JP Custom than it is for a regular Les Paul Standard? I get that they're pretty limited and that would be a big reason for the price increase, but what about other Les Paul customs? IE Slash's?

To summarise, are you paying for the same guitar with someones signature on it or are they legitimately worth the extra you pay?
#2
The short answer is no.

Signature guitars are geared towards people with lots of money to burn or collectors. Don't get me wrong, Gibson's signature guitars are still great instruments but they're virtually identical to other Gibson's quality wise.
#3
Minor differences which you could make yourself for Much less than you pay Gibson to do it.

You might get an extra "A" of flamed maple or something aswell but yeah nothing i would pay an extra 3000 bucks for
#4
Absolutely not worth it. There are a few signatures that I would deem as being worth the price, but certainly not Gibson's.
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#5
Les Paul Standards actually have better hardware. Unlike customs, which are usually vintage correct, the standard has locking tuners and a locking tune-o-mastic bridge. Also, most customs have gibson 490R and 498T pickups which people generally think are gibsons worst pickups... By far. Locking tuners on les pauls don't really make a difference cos les Paul's don't have terms and they rarely go out of tune.
The signature slash les Paul is pretty ****ing awesome though. It has great features.
#6
Quote by TheDuckMajor
Les Paul Standards actually have better hardware. Unlike customs, which are usually vintage correct, the standard has locking tuners and a locking tune-o-mastic bridge. Also, most customs have gibson 490R and 498T pickups which people generally think are gibsons worst pickups... By far. Locking tuners on les pauls don't really make a difference cos les Paul's don't have terms and they rarely go out of tune.
The signature slash les Paul is pretty ****ing awesome though. It has great features.


You blatantly didn't read the OP


I feel that ost of the sig models are really not worth it. For example, the Pearly Gates signature was basically an R9 with different pick-ups in, yet it cost far more than it would have cost to just buy an R9 and put in the pick-ups.

The Historic/VOS series are some the best guitars currently being produced on the market imo, consistently superb quality, worth every penny.

I have a Gibson Les Paul Custom 68RI VOS in Ebony btw...
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You blatantly didn't read the OP


I feel that ost of the sig models are really not worth it. For example, the Pearly Gates signature was basically an R9 with different pick-ups in, yet it cost far more than it would have cost to just buy an R9 and put in the pick-ups.

The Historic/VOS series are some the best guitars currently being produced on the market imo, consistently superb quality, worth every penny.

I have a Gibson Les Paul Custom 68RI VOS in Ebony btw...



Actually, i did read the OP. Just because i didn't blatantly shout out the answer to the question doesn't mean that it isn't there. I you thought for for one second you'd realise that the point I'm getting at is that most of the time you are not getting anything more than a collectors certificate for the extra money that you pay. Simples.

And what does you owning a Les Paul Custom have to do with this? It doesn't prove anything.
#8
Occasionally the signature guitars have more specialised feature that aren't available on regular models but in most cases the cost to modify a regular gibson to that level is less than that of the signature model, so I would only say its worth it in a few respects, I remember the robby keiger? (the guy from the doors) had an odd electronic set up. Where they recreate identically an old famous gibson like, Don Felder's etc can't be easy.

But I'm clutching at straws here.
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#9
OP, you're confusing signatures, LP Customs and Custom Shop guitars (although these days, the LP customs are all Custom Shop guitars).

To begin with, the Custom Shop guitars cost more than the regular production models because they are made using nicer wood, with far stricter quality control, in more limited numbers and by more experienced people.
"Les Paul Customs" are a specific type of Les Paul. They have multiply binding, gold hardware, an ebony fretboard, block-shape inlays and a mahogany top instead of maple. They usually only come in black or white, though some have been made with flame maple tops and burst finishes. All Les Paul Customs are currently made by the Gibson Custom Shop, though up until a few years ago they were a standard production model.
Signature guitars have special features not found on other regular models. You can get signature production guitars and signature Custom Shop guitars. Sometimes a signature model is nothing more than a regular guitar with a unique finish. Other times it will have unique pickups, wiring, control layouts, neck sizes and other features. Since these models are made in more limited numbers and sue odder parts - plus the player the signature guitar is named after gets a small percentage of the profit - these guitars cost more. So a signature version of a production guitar can cost almost as much as a Custom Shop guitar, but that doens't mean it's actually as good quality. A signature model of a Custom Shop guitar can cost a huge amount, but not actually be technically any better than other Custom Shop guitars.
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#10
^^^ this.

You will always pay more for a custom shop/private stockfrom any brand over the normal factory made version. And also the guitarists name has alot to do with it.
#11
Signature guitars are definitely not worth the money. You could buy a regular les paul (gibson standard, gibson studio, or high end epiphone) and get it almost the exact same as a signature (except wood and maybe the neck profile) but for a lot less money.


Customs are a different story. you might want to look into the used market though if you're interested in getting one.
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#12
^Comparing a Gibson custom shop JP signature to a high end Epiphone, are you ****ing high?

Yes, the JP signature will be a significantly better guitar than the standard. It's basically a historic with a few custom features, but the historics are on a completely different level than the standard lines. Whether it's "worth it" has to do with your financial situation and how much you want the guitar and what you would be willing to give up for a different one. Personally, I would not spend the extra for a signature guitar (especially a JP #2, Page barely used #2 during Zeppelin), but I would spend the extra on a Historic over a standard. They are that much better.
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