#1
Hey guys, kinda new to recording. but i got this song im writing and its got some of that fizz in the high end that you get with high gain recordings. my question is whats the best way to remove that?

heres an example of an unfinished song}
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all the guitars are lightly gated, comp'ed and eq'd
any other suggestions would be great thanks!
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#2
EQ the high highs down, like the top frequency range. Beyond that I'm still trying to figure out myself.
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#3
sounds like normal digital fizz. for guitars i low-pass around 6k
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#4
Low pass between 4 and 6k.
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Low pass between 4 and 6k.

4k? Yikes, that seems a bit harsh...

I'd say, start at 10k and bring it down until it starts losing aggressiveness (unless you don't want that). Usually, I low pass around 8k, sometimes as low as 6k, but after that, I find the tone gets way too smooth and muddy.

The fizz is there to add aggressiveness and sizzle to let it cut through the rest of the instruments a bit better. If you're cutting it all out, you're left with a pretty bland tone IMO.
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#6
i agree i want some fizz left, but i try to eq it out a bit. it is recorded from a digital vox tonelab so it might be a bit hard
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#7
On guitar modeling software and processors, I learned a little bit of a secret in taming that digitalized harsh fizz in high gain guitar tracks. A low pass around 10khz is pretty good, but check this out;

Try a VERY NARROW cut (like the Q value of 40-50) at 7.8 or 7.9khz, it definitely takes out the harsh fizz that occurs when using high gain with modelling stuff. Try it out and see if it works, I always do that when I'm using Amplitube, LePou and TSE amp simulations.

You don't need to do this at all when miking up a high gain amp though, or using impulses with a real amp head etc.
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#8
Low passing will work. If you still want the high end there but want to smooth it out this works pretty well:

http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=11702

I always mic guitars so I don't have that problem on my own recordings but mixing other peoples stuff where they DI'd I liked this plugin in quite a bit.
#9
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4k? Yikes, that seems a bit harsh...

I'd say, start at 10k and bring it down until it starts losing aggressiveness (unless you don't want that). Usually, I low pass around 8k, sometimes as low as 6k, but after that, I find the tone gets way too smooth and muddy.

The fizz is there to add aggressiveness and sizzle to let it cut through the rest of the instruments a bit better. If you're cutting it all out, you're left with a pretty bland tone IMO.


This, 4-6 k low pass will leave you almost nothing to work with, and it seems like it's high passed way to much, has no low end.

Also, add a bass guitar in there if you haven't, it'll thicken up the mix and support the guitars lower end without mudding up the mix.
#10
Also try recording with less gain. You usually need less gain in recording than you do live.

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#11
Firstly add a bass in, or if its already there turn it up. Try low and high passing the guitars, helps to clear off the high end fizz and low mud that can build up and using less gain helps a lot as well.
#12
Sweet, thanks guys, i'll post another try tommarow
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