#1
Hey UGC My names Michael and I'm a junior in high school, I've been playing guitar and I've gotten pretty good but I was wondering what colleges should I apply for after high school? I want to Major in Guitar Performance and maybe do a double major with Music Business. I am already looking at Juilliard and Berklee, please give your opinion and perhaps a link to the colleges site. (I am located in the Virginia so schools in the US are preferred) My music style is Metal (melodic) but I could do classical or rock and roll.
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UMass Amherst has a really good jazz program, most of my friends are in it and they're all incredible musicians. It might not be exactly what you think you want to do right now, but you should give it a shot, even as a backup.
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In your case, I'd recommend not applying to any. Sorry.
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From what you've said....Berklee seems to be your best bet. But with a comment like Juliard I would imagine you really don't know what you're talking about. Get some SERIOUS chops and learn to read well then consider auditioning for Berklee. I got in when I was applying for colleges.
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Hey UGC My names Michael and I'm a junior in high school, I've been playing guitar and I've gotten pretty good but I was wondering what colleges should I apply for after high school? I want to Major in Guitar Performance and maybe do a double major with Music Business. I am already looking at Juilliard and Berklee, please give your opinion and perhaps a link to the colleges site. (I am located in the US so schools in the US are preferred) My music style is Metal (melodic) but I could do classical or rock and roll.

It doesn't matter if you play melodic metal. If you don't know how to play classical guitar (different from just playing classical) or jazz, you don't have a chance in Julliard or Berklee as a guitarist. It would help if we knew what state you're from. I live around some good local music schools.
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If you get into a music college it doesn't matter what kind of music you play. You have to either love Jazz or Classical because those are "proper" genre's apparently. According to music schools anyways
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To be fair, he does have a chance at Berklee if he's VERY good. They're more open to contemporary styles and were quite receptive to my fingerstyle. Albeit it's rather close to classical and I also play classical.


EDIT: To anyone of you making the jazz and classical comments that's bogus. Some music schools, yes of course. If you want to go to a school deeply rooted in tradition like North Texas, Michigan or Juliard or ff you want to go to grad school you better be into theory, classic and modern symphonic and chamber music too. But for an undergraduate degree a lot of schools, especially liberal arts colleges, offer programs which are quite receptive to a multitude of approaches.

NOT TO MENTION most of those places offer a great double majoring program so you can have easy alternatives but still study music.
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Cal State Northridge has a great program if you can get in. Also, the conservatory at Rochester, and I heard Oberlin is good as well.

You can really do some non-jazz or classical stuff at Northridge though, as well as at Berklee. That's why I recommend looking heavily into those. I've had friends graduate from both and they're fantastic players.

EDIT:I would also recommend really reading and not being offended by what Xiaoxi has said. Music school might not be the best path for you and your music passion. It certainly wasn't for me (even if I had been good enough at the time to get in), and I'm happier for not doing a bunch of music stuff I might have hated.
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This pops up all the time and it just amazes me how little thought the OP's put into this shit.

Do you really want to spend 100+ grand "studying" metal guitar?

You guys always put metal first for some reason, and then almost like an afterthought, you say "oh but you know I guess classical or jazz or whatever is ok too". Clearly, you have no experience with either of these disciplines, and all of a sudden you want to commit 4 years to it?

"Music Business". Let me guess, you want a "legitimate" degree to back up your useless metal guitar shred degree right? Do you have any idea what a music business major actually entails? Have you ever shown any interest or done anything that even resembles business? Somehow I doubt it.

Sorry kid, better stop half assing things like this, especially if you even have a remote genuine interest in professional music, where there is absolutely no room for this kind of lazy shit.


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My guitar teacher at a community college went to Berklee. He said he doesn't make enough money only teaching, so he does performances for business dinners/meetings.

My suggestion would be to get a real degree then take music classes as a hobby/for fun. It's what I'm doing.
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This pops up all the time and it just amazes me how little thought the OP's put into this shit.

Do you really want to spend 100+ grand "studying" metal guitar?

You guys always put metal first for some reason, and then almost like an afterthought, you say "oh but you know I guess classical or jazz or whatever is ok too". Clearly, you have no experience with either of these disciplines, and all of a sudden you want to commit 4 years to it?

Dude, metal is just liek classical music. They both use lots of theory & scales & stuff. Shredding is just like Bach.

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Or a more practical music-related degree, if you feel like you'd like that. But depending on where you are, you can probably find a decent state school for music like I did. Last thing a music major needs is debt. Give it time, and if you want to do music, don't just go for performance, get a more practical degree like education or therapy.
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Sorry kid, better stop half assing things like this, especially if you even have a remote genuine interest in professional music, where there is absolutely no room for this kind of lazy shit.


Calm down he's just a junior in high school. I didn't know anything about really any college until I was a senior when I was actively looking and applying for college. Right now I'm very happy at the University of Illinois as an engineer. He could be just starting his search.

If you want to start a band, you don't need a degree. It may help to go to college for business and then if it's possible try to concentrate in music business. You should be able to find other people with an interest in starting a band while you're there. Understand that nobody cares if their favorite band went to college when they're listening to their music or at their concert. They just care if the music sounds good.

If you want to study music theory, there are a lot of resources online (you're on a site that should help right now). You may be able to take a music theory for non music majors class or double major in business and music. If you can find a competent guitar teacher, they should be able to help you learn music theory as well. In either case, keep an open mind and make sure you think carefully about all this.
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For a school like Julliard, you gotta be able to fit in with these guys that are competing in GFA competitions. Those guys are f*cking insane.
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This pops up all the time and it just amazes me how little thought the OP's put into this shit.

Do you really want to spend 100+ grand "studying" metal guitar?

You guys always put metal first for some reason, and then almost like an afterthought, you say "oh but you know I guess classical or jazz or whatever is ok too". Clearly, you have no experience with either of these disciplines, and all of a sudden you want to commit 4 years to it?

"Music Business". Let me guess, you want a "legitimate" degree to back up your useless metal guitar shred degree right? Do you have any idea what a music business major actually entails? Have you ever shown any interest or done anything that even resembles business? Somehow I doubt it.

Sorry kid, better stop half assing things like this, especially if you even have a remote genuine interest in professional music, where there is absolutely no room for this kind of lazy shit.


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Calm down he's just a junior in high school. I didn't know anything about really any college until I was a senior when I was actively looking and applying for college. Right now I'm very happy at the University of Illinois as an engineer. He could be just starting his search.


Xiaoxi actually goes to Berklee, his input is probably the most valuable so far...
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hang on, the question is, what do you want to do after college? that will determine which one is good to go to, if any.
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You don't have to be a Chris Broderick, but pretty close. You should be able to rip it up on classical guitar while reading sheet music, NOT tabs. You may enjoy guitar now, but 4 years will make you... better, but it'll become less of a hobby and more of a daily drill session.
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When I was a senior, I was primarily interested in applying to the conservatory at Oberlin and Northwestern. For music, I was mostly interested in Oberlin. I would still like to go there, really, but I'm not going to.
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This is also a decent option since this thread needs some shred of positivity, jesus. My first teacher went there and my current instructor was an instructor there for a while. Heard nothing but good things, not to mention Paul Gilbert went there for a while too.

Though I do strongly recommend a double major in something else unless you plan on doing education.
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Cal State Northridge has a great program if you can get in. Also, the conservatory at Rochester, and I heard Oberlin is good as well.

You can really do some non-jazz or classical stuff at Northridge though, as well as at Berklee. That's why I recommend looking heavily into those. I've had friends graduate from both and they're fantastic players.

EDIT:I would also recommend really reading and not being offended by what Xiaoxi has said. Music school might not be the best path for you and your music passion. It certainly wasn't for me (even if I had been good enough at the time to get in), and I'm happier for not doing a bunch of music stuff I might have hated.


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