#1
My amp supplies were running low... so... I got these nifty boxes:



I wonder what's inside???


Hmmm....




All brand-new 2012 Engl Special Edition EL34, Savage 120, and Fireball 100. Can you say "metal"?

I just got the Fireball and Savage today... received the SE last week. I've been busy. I'll just post a few quick random thoughts here and do a more in-depth review later. I've owned the the SE EL34 and Savage 120 before, and for the most part everything is mostly the same. They both still kick-ass for most any kind of metal. A few quick differences from my earlier 2009 models (I did a review of the SE and Savage 120 a few years ago, which are still posted here on the forum if you use the search function):

SE EL34: More gain, especially on channel 2 & 3. Channel 1 & 2 seem louder overall then before. Much less noise than my previous SE (but this just could be due to the preamp tubes). Still an absolute monster and can cover just about any tone imaginable. Two great high gain channels that cover all your metal needs. Definitely the most versatile of the group.

Savage 120: First off, the Savage has a new, and much bigger than before output transformer. It's looks identical to the output transformer in my SE EL34. Great move Engl! This Savage 120 has more volume, more ass, warmth, chunk and good bit more gain than my 2009 model. Also there seems to be a bit more low-end on tap even w/o the depth boost on. My old Savage was run thru a Mills Acoustics Afterburner 4X12 for a little extra low-end kick... this new 2012 Savage does not need that at all. Most likely due to the bigger output transformer. (See pic below). Also the front panel and logo are a dark-metallic gray color... looks much better than the older version IMHO.

Last, but not least...

Fireball 100: This is the amp the Powerball should have sounded like. The Fireball has full-sized 100W output transformers, not the Playschool under-sized transformers found in the Fireball 60 and Powerball versions 1.0 and 2.0. The amp does clean and kill with ease. Mid-gain crunch really isn't it's strong point... but with the gain up on the clean channel you can get some very decent crunch tones. Clean tone are great... and on par with the SE clean channel. The lead channel is the big selling point here. Plenty of gain, bass, and tight-tight-tight bottom end. Engl bills this as a darker/smoother sounding amp... which maybe I agree with to some small degree it is... but it's plenty bright, cutting, with more than enough high-end and upper mids so solos stand-out, and downtunes rhythms don't run all together or get turned in to a big sloopy, muddy mess. Chug away and still have your solos cut. Great modern metal tones in this box. The mid-boost button works as advertised and it like kicking on a good mid-boost Tubescreamer-like pedal. Great for solos. Just really a great amp, and the best bang for the buck of the bunch.

Enough ramblings... more pornz:






New Savage 120 output transformer:


Finally, a group pic:
#2
Duuuude, that is some major cash you must have shelled out. I'm totally jealous, I'd kill for even just one of those heads!! HNAD man!!
#4
Nice OD100. Flipping mine ATM. Not German enough for me. Freaking love the Savage though. Probably my favorite ENGL.
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#8
Maaaaaaaaaannnnnn!! I'd kill for a Savage. All that must have cost you a pretty penny. Wish I had that kind of cash. HNAD man.
#9
Nice! I miss my Savage more and more every day

I REALLY want to try the FB100 and SE.
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#10
holy carp dude

I'm an idiot and I accidentally clicked the "Remove all subscriptions" button. If it seems like I'm ignoring you, I'm not, I'm just no longer subscribed to the thread. If you quote me or do the @user thing at me, hopefully it'll notify me through my notifications and I'll get back to you.
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#11
There are no words to accurately describe the bizarre mixture of hatred and jealousy I feel right now. Still, HAPPY NAD!!!!!
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#12
wow.... I mean, really... WOW! HNAD!
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#13
Nice.


Now buy a Diezel.
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#16
why would you buy all 3 at the exact same time? hnad though!
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this :P

the SE is probably in the top 5 amps i've ever played, behind the Mark V, Roadking, Herbert and 2 channel Recto. its just badass in everyway.

Never played the savage, but i always thought it was the SE with fewer functions personally. ANd the Fireball 100 is getting loads of praise these days, cant fault it for the money a great great amp.

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#20
That's pretty damn awesome.

I've never really been able to get into Engl, but maybe if they did a Powerball with bigger transformers, I could be swayed...

Random link... wtf.
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#21
How the fuck could you afford this? Thats like $10,000 of amplifiers.

I am currently swimming in a lake of rage and jealousy.
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#23
Well I guess we know who won the lottery this week........


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#24
There's still several ENGL amps that you don't have.
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#25
Your neighbors must love you.

HNAD! Enjoy your Engl family!
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#26
Thanks guys.

They all pretty much kick ass. I'm really liking all 3 of them and getting different tones from each which was important. I didn't want to have too much overlap with the sound of each or have all 3 amps that sound the same.

The Engl tone, in it's different variations, just works for me. I've owned a bunch of high gain amps, but the Engl tone stands out. If you have the chance, check one out. Metal fans will not be disappointed.

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Those cost more than my house.

i can't see a house in boston costing more than 3 heads come on.

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The Engl tone, in it's different variations, just works for me. I've owned a bunch of high gain amps, but the Engl tone stands out.

i totally get this. congrats, that's awesome. i feel the same way about my amp, i mean i can eq a couple other amps really close, but none really hit "my" sound in my head like the amp i ended up with.
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i can't see a house in boston costing more than 3 heads come on.


i totally get this. congrats, that's awesome. i feel the same way about my amp, i mean i can eq a couple other amps really close, but none really hit "my" sound in my head like the amp i ended up with.


You could accommodate a house nicely with 3 dumbles.

Nice Engls man. HNAD!
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#32
Quote by gregs1020
i can't see a house in boston costing more than 3 heads come on.


i totally get this. congrats, that's awesome. i feel the same way about my amp, i mean i can eq a couple other amps really close, but none really hit "my" sound in my head like the amp i ended up with.



What I invested in it and what it's worth has no bearing on its current value.
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#33
Hey Wizard nice NAD!!! Ive got a couple of questions, if you don't mind. First, did you try the Mesa V head and how does that compare to the Engl. Second, if you play drop tune metal stuff most of the time is it worth getting the Savage 120 compared to the Fireball 100. Since the Savage is $500 more, is it worth it? What is the better metal amp? I appreciate your input.
#34
Good God that must have cost you a fortune. In Australia Engls fetch a ridiculous price, so I am very jealous indeed.

Overall, which one would you say has the greatest cleans?
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#35
When you say 'all metal' - Does the Fireball happily reach modern death metal kinda tones. (Imagine Meshuggah->The Black Dahlia Murder)

You entire rig looks beautiful though, Happy new amp day :>

(Also, for the record, the picture of your gear has quickly found it's way to tumblr.. if you care.)
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#36
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Good God that must have cost you a fortune. In Australia Engls fetch a ridiculous price, so I am very jealous indeed.

Overall, which one would you say has the greatest cleans?



Best cleans... I'd have to go with the Fireball 100 surprisingly due the 6L6GC power section. Very clean, no grit, lots of chime and very open, uncompressed, clear tones. Very Fender Twin sounding. Runner up would be the SE, but with more of the EL34 flavor.
#37
Quote by Into Exile
When you say 'all metal' - Does the Fireball happily reach modern death metal kinda tones. (Imagine Meshuggah->The Black Dahlia Murder)

You entire rig looks beautiful though, Happy new amp day :>

(Also, for the record, the picture of your gear has quickly found it's way to tumblr.. if you care.)


The Fireball 100 is a beast. For the money, it's a killer metal machine, and will do Meshuggah, BDM, CoB, InFlames, ArchEnemy, Amon Amarth and just about any other death, black, djent, or heavy modern metal tone out there. Tons of gain, lots of heavy, room filling bass... but still tight and articulate. Just a really great amp. I think Engl will sell a bunch of these.