#2
to me his gain is really fuzzy and gritty, i know he used a big muff and a ds1 at different points but i don't know what he used for an amp, not really a fan, i'm assuming a marshall
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#3
thanks man yeh the think is it sounds clean but has a bit of distortion its hard to get, i'll just mess about some more.
#6
Back when i was really into Nirvana I had good results with:

Guitar with humbuckers
Peavey Classic 30 set so it just barely distorts when you dig in hard
Full mids, Bass about 3/4, Treble at noon
Ds-1 for distortion, Tone between 9-11 o'clock, Dist 3 o'clock-full

Try a chorus pedal too
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#7
Def a ds1 and chorus, I think a lot of the songs are tuned down a step or two. I'm curious if anyone knows what amps he used? Also, does anyone know how he got that amazing feedback growl in the song "radio friendly unit shifter"?
#8
Higher gain channel with a fuzz. Roll off the tone and that's it really. That's what I do if I want a grunge sound.
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to me his gain is really fuzzy and gritty, i know he used a big muff and a ds1 at different points but i don't know what he used for an amp, not really a fan, i'm assuming a marshall


Nope, he had an old marshall that he used to kick around the stage, but IIRC he used Fender amps.

DS-1, but Kurt's was probably either one of the nicer earlier models, or modded to **** by his tech. Standard DS-1 is rather shitty.
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Nope, he had an old marshall that he used to kick around the stage, but IIRC he used Fender amps.

DS-1, but Kurt's was probably either one of the nicer earlier models, or modded to **** by his tech. Standard DS-1 is rather shitty.


Except, the "nicer earlier models" sound exactly the same as the newer ones. I've played two long dash DS-1s and three or four new DS-1s and the only difference between them is that you have to pay $150 for the long dash and $20-30 for a used DS-1. Even if there is a difference, and I swear there isn't, it's not a difference worth over $100. The new ones are just fine IMO.

His wasn't modded either. It was off the shelf.

He used old Fenders for recordings, but generally for live shows they used 800 watt Crest Power amps and a Mesa Boogie Preamp.

If you don't like the DS-1, he also used a Proco Rat, DS-2, Tech 21 Sansamp Classic, and on rare occasions a Big Muff and an MXR Distortion +. For chorus effects he used a Small Clone or a Polychorus.
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#13
New and old DS1's sound equally shitty. As somebody mentioned already, Kurt's DS1 was probably modded. Lots of people mod DS1's because with mods they can be quite a useful pedal. After tubescreamers and crybabies they are probably the most modded pedal there is.
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#14
All this talk about ds-1 is depressing, it not going to help one little bit as unless you are using it with the rest of kurts rig.

Best bet is to get hold of a mesa studio preamp as this is the foundation of Kurt's Nevermind/in Utero sound. Kurt paired the Studio Preamps with many power amps over the years but the preamp was the part that stayed in the rig.
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#15
A DS-1 in front of a Mark 4 would probably get you pretty damn close to those albums I reckon.
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New and old DS1's sound equally shitty. As somebody mentioned already, Kurt's DS1 was probably modded. Lots of people mod DS1's because with mods they can be quite a useful pedal. After tubescreamers and crybabies they are probably the most modded pedal there is.


It was not modded. It was a standard DS-1, which can sound very good with the right settings in front of the right amp.
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It was not modded. It was a standard DS-1, which can sound very good with the right settings in front of the right amp.

Yeah they can sound alright if you keep the distortion level down near zero and use it to boost a good tube amp. It's when you start actually using the majority of the range on the distortion knob (ie. actually using it as a distortion pedal) that they turn into total shite.
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#18
MIJ Boss DS-1. I didn't get mine for Nirvana tones, but I can do a perfect Nirvana tone through any amp with any guitar with that pedal.
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MIJ Boss DS-1. I didn't get mine for Nirvana tones, but I can do a perfect Nirvana tone through any amp with any guitar with that pedal.


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Yeah they can sound alright if you keep the distortion level down near zero and use it to boost a good tube amp. It's when you start actually using the majority of the range on the distortion knob (ie. actually using it as a distortion pedal) that they turn into total shite.


I contend that it is a very good sounding pedal for certain things. I would also say it's the best distortion pedal you can get for under $50.
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MIJ Boss DS-1. I didn't get mine for Nirvana tones, but I can do a perfect Nirvana tone through any amp with any guitar with that pedal.

+1
#22
I really don't know how you guys like stock DS-1's. I really don't get it. So they are cheap, but they are cheap and nasty. I don't care how cheap a shit sandwich is, I aint eating it.
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I really don't know how you guys like stock DS-1's. I really don't get it. So they are cheap, but they are cheap and nasty. I don't care how cheap a shit sandwich is, I aint eating it.


I'm with you pally, I got rid of my DS1 a while back but shortly after I heard the Analogman mod of it and I kinda wish I held onto. Another probably worth mentioning in regards to replicating tone is that you also have to keep in mind the magic of the recording studio. He might have been using a stock DS1, he might have been using a modded one...but it's also safe to say it could've been created and doctored up at the board.
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Too true. Grunge was punk played by people too wasted on heroin to play that fast.
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#26
Bad sounds can be good sounds. A DS-1 with the tone almost all the way up and the drive set at about noon gets a nice brittle sounding distortion that is really good for simple lead lines played with some verb and delay. To the other end, drive at about 75% and tone a little past noon gets a really big, heavily saturated rhythm tone that sounds like the epitome of early Foo Fighters and plenty of other bands in the same vein from the 90s.

EDIT: That being said, the DS-1 isn't really very versatile and really should just be used to get nasty tones. You'll need something else on your board for commonly usable tones. Thus the Marshall DriveMaster sitting next to my DS-1.
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#27
I have DS-1 in my GP-8 - not a simulation of a DS-1 but an actual DS-1. I made a living playing grunge in the 90's and still the DS-1 never got switched on. I can't stand the POS.
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