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#1
Today is my birthday, and my dad is thinking of getting me a new amp. Our price range is 300 or lower, any suggestions what i should get? I mostly play hard rock and metal ( like Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth etc...) but i sometimes play softer music ( like The Beatles) and rock ballads.
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#2
300 what? I assume £ or USD.

Go used, get a Peavey Classic 30. And a Bad Monkey if you can.
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#3
Seriously, what is it with members here recommending the Classic 30 for anything metal?


Used Peavey Ultra combos go for under $300 used. And if you are willing to stretch your budget a bit, Peavey XXX combo.
#4
a peavey classic 30 wont get nearly enough distortion. what about a Jet City JCA20H or JCA2112 combo?
#6
Hence the Bad Monkey. Though I've played death metal on a Delta Blues. The Classic 30 can get into Megadeth territory easy enough. The Ultra is great for heavier stuff, and cleans. I've got one. But it can't pull off a really good crunch.
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Hence the Bad Monkey. Though I've played death metal on a Delta Blues. The Classic 30 can get into Megadeth territory easy enough.
Sure, if you boost the hell out of it you can get to death metal distortion, but it will sound like rotten runny pig vomit.

My dad used to own the Delta Blues. I wouldn't recommend that thing for ANY form of metal (personally I wouldn't even recommend it for anything considering there are better options for the price); distortion is FAR too loose for that territory.
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Sure, if you boost the hell out of it you can get to death metal distortion, but it will sound like rotten runny pig vomit.

My dad used to own the Delta Blues. I wouldn't recommend that thing for ANY form of metal (personally I wouldn't even recommend it for anything considering there are better options for the price); distortion is FAR too loose for that territory.


Yeah, about the Delta Blues, it sounded quite shitty. But it was what was available at the rehearsal place.

TS didn't ask for death metal distortion. He asked for '70/'80s sound.
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#9
I dont play death metal at all, so I dont need that kind of heavy sound. The heaviest song i play is master of puppets i think or some megadeth song.
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TS didn't ask for death metal distortion. He asked for '70/'80s sound.
Distortion isn't all the issue. You don't need a shit-ton of gain for playing any metal at all, it just needs to be tight and "hold together."

That's just what the Classic 30's distortion doesn't do: hold together. It's extremely loose and muddy and sounds like shit with all forms of metal, especially thrash.
#11
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Distortion isn't all the issue. You don't need a shit-ton of gain for playing any metal at all, it just needs to be tight and "hold together."

That's just what the Classic 30's distortion doesn't do: hold together. It's extremely loose and muddy and sounds like shit with all forms of metal, especially thrash.



I disagree, but oh well. TS should try them all and form his own opinion.
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#12
I guess i can try all of them, but in the city i live there are only 3 guitar shops, and i am not sure if they sell used ones. Are there any good amps that are not used under 300 dollars?
#13
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Are there any good amps that are not used under 300 dollars?


If you're going to gig, pretty much no.
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#14
Just to pickup on this, you don't need a knew amp...


You need a new one.
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If you're going to gig, pretty much no.

I am not really going to a gig, I am only 13 , but I want an amp that is good enough for a school talent show, but not a huge amp.


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You need a new one.


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#19
Try every amp you can find in your price range. And remember that name brand has better resale value for future upgrades. Look for a fender excelsior, maybe
#20
Look at Jet City. The JCA20H or Combo is around 300 bucks. There aren't many other new amps in that price range that will compete. There is also a 2 channel version out now with an effects loop, the model name escapes me at the moment though.
#21
in my experience, the peavey classic gets more gain and is better for metal than the jca amps. i read somewhere that the classic 30 isnt that far off from a valveking. however, i personally prefer the jcas slightly less saturated tone.
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#22
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Look at Jet City. The JCA20H or Combo is around 300 bucks. There aren't many other new amps in that price range that will compete. There is also a 2 channel version out now with an effects loop, the model name escapes me at the moment though.


you're thinking of the JCA22H
#23
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you're thinking of the JCA22H


Yes, I want one to replace my JCA20H. I need two channels and the effects loop would also be awesome.
#24
I just bought a Line 6 Spider IV15 for 100$.
I really love it, I don't really know how it suits your preferences.
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#25
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I just bought a Line 6 Spider IV15 for 100$.
I really love it, I don't really know how it suits your preferences.


It doesn't. Lets leave it at that.
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#28
I don't mean to be that guy, but if you're trying to get a new amp for 300 dollars there isn't much that will impress you... my first amp was 300 bucks (a Line 6 Spider III 30) and, honestly, there isn't much else in that range that is much different in terms of tone. I suppose if you're hellbent on getting a new amp at 300, your best bets are the Peavey Vypyr 75W or something from the Roland Cube line. Also, it's small but tube so the Blackstar HT-1R 1W will provide good tone and might be able to get the OD you need. The Blackstar will definitely have the best tone in the price range but it won't be big enough or powerful to do anything but play in your room...

my personal verdict: go used or save more otherwise, in the long run, you'll be let down. Save another couple hundred if you can and you can really start getting into legitimate amps that'll last you a long long time and have the headroom to play gigs as well. For example, I got my 5150 2x12 combo for around 600 and I'll probably have it for a very long time. If you can go used, the rewards are great.
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#29
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Wut?


That is all that came to mind when trying to explain the feeling that your reply gave me.
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That is all that came to mind when trying to explain the feeling that your reply gave me.


But why did you reply to your own comment?
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But why did you reply to your own comment?


Damn, I'm confused right now.
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#33
I was thinking of getting Line 6 Spider IV 75, is that any good?
#34
I think that some folks here are selling the Classic 30 short. It's not perfect or anything, but it's not terrible either. This band's entire album was recorded with only a Classic 30 used for the guitars:

http://www.vilifi.net/music
#35
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I was thinking of getting Line 6 Spider IV 75, is that any good?


I have an IV, except it's only 15 watts.
But yeah, it's great.

Edit: But yeah, it's great as a practice amp. I got it cheap and it's good enough to just keep on hand for practicing; I don't really play plugged in much anyway.
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#36
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I have an IV, except it's only 15 watts.
But yeah, it's great.

No it isn't...
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#37
The line 6 spider IV sucks compared to the stuff that we've recommded and it's not much louder either cos tube amps are much louder than SS amps.
#38
Go used! You will find much better amps to fit your price range. I haven't liked any digital amps (but my Roland Microcube that was decent as my first amp ) I have tried (Spider and Valvetronix that both sounded boring). What amp do you have at the moment? You could sell it so you had more money to spend. But really, go used! You can find amps for half of their original price like I did. My Laney VC30 cost only €280 (it's €630 new). It's over 10 years old but whatever, it works just fine. You don't need all those built in effects and other digital crap. Built in effects often sound weak and just raise the price of the amp. And so do amp models. Because I know you are going to use only two sound types: clean and distortion (maybe some Marshall kind of sound). You don't need 10 amp models for that. You need a two-channel (analog) amp.
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#39
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I was thinking of getting Line 6 Spider IV 75, is that any good?
Line 6 Spiders are absolute garbage, and ThrashUnleashed is an idiot; don't listen to him.

I mean, they're good as beginner amps because their straightforward and easy to use for someone with little to no guitar experience, but they sound excessively fake and digital and sound like shit. Just search any shitty guitar cover by some kid on Youtube who's using a Spider to hear what they sound like. The distortion just has that distinct, horridly shrill buzz that you can't get rid of.

Much better suggestions have been given in this whole thread, look into them.
#40
Yeah, don't listen to me.
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