#1
Hi, experimenting with the C major scale, I started using it over a blues in G and it sounds cool, does anyone know why? Which mode would that be? my intuition tells me that I am actually playing G mixolydian (the fifth degree of C major is G). Is that correct? thanks, this is a major Aha moment for me. No pun intended.
#2
The C and G major scales have one note different - G has an F#, C has an F.

If a G blues context, F natural is a flat sevenths. And of course the flat sevenths is very common in blues - you see a G7 chord used all the time! The G blues scale is G, Bb, B, C, D and F.

So, depending on how you're playing, most likely all you're really doing is just using a common note for the blues in your scale. It probably makes more sense to think this way than to think about modes.
#3
In that context you're still playing in the G major scale, you just make an accidental the F instead of F# in G major.
Which is called a G mixolydian scale (Not to be confused with modes).
It's common in blues.
Try to play this scale over it: G A# C D F G over that G major progression.
The b3 and the b7 are called blues accidentals, mainly because they are used alot in blues.
That's a minor pentatonic which you probably already knew.
#4
Quote by liampje

Which is called a G mixolydian scale (Not to be confused with modes).


Just because you add the word scale at the end of it, it doesn't make it any less of a mode...

It's just a G MAJOR scale with a lowered 7th
#5
Quote by d1sturbed4eva
Just because you add the word scale at the end of it, it doesn't make it any less of a mode...


What lljampe is saying is that as the song is in a key, modes do not apply. So using the word "scale" is less likely to confuse readers here.
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#7
I am confused, if I am using G major with a flat 7, isn't that the mixolydian mode? so, it is not a mode of the C major scale?
#8
It's a C major with a b7. Modes don't exist. They are a dead creature that hasn't existed for many a year.
#9
Quote by ponchete
I am confused, if I am using G major with a flat 7, isn't that the mixolydian mode? so, it is not a mode of the C major scale?


Because the backing track is in G Major. It's blues so I'm willing to bet it is a I (G B D) IV (C E G) V (D F# A) progression in G which has a F#.

You're just using a lowered 7th over it
#10
Quote by ponchete
I am confused, if I am using G major with a flat 7, isn't that the mixolydian mode? so, it is not a mode of the C major scale?


The song is in the key of G major, you said it yourself. Modes do not apply in keys.
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#11
Quote by ponchete
I am confused, if I am using G major with a flat 7, isn't that the mixolydian mode? so, it is not a mode of the C major scale?

Modern music isn't in modes in general.
Only very few songs (speaking of 9999 out of 10000) are tonal.
A more modern approach is scales with accidentals, but that doesn't make it a mode, nor does it even sound a bit like a mode.
#12
Quote by d1sturbed4eva
Because the backing track is in G Major. It's blues so I'm willing to bet it is a I (G B D) IV (C E G) V (D F# A) progression in G which has a F#.

You're just using a lowered 7th over it

I agree with the rest of your post but the firstk sentence, I loll'd.
Because it's in G major it's a blues.
Bob Dylan's knocking on heaven's doors is still a folk song and in G major.
#13
Quote by liampje
I agree with the rest of your post but the firstk sentence, I loll'd.
Because it's in G major it's a blues.
Bob Dylan's knocking on heaven's doors is still a folk song and in G major.


Uh, dude. Reread what you were complaining about. See that period?

He's not saying that because it's in G major it's blues. If you replace the period with a comma and add a period two words later your complaint would be valid - but that's not what he wrote.
#14
Quote by HotspurJr
Uh, dude. Reread what you were complaining about. See that period?

He's not saying that because it's in G major it's blues. If you replace the period with a comma and add a period two words later your complaint would be valid - but that's not what he wrote.

And this is the part where I feel like stfu and get some sleep lol.
#15
Quote by liampje
I agree with the rest of your post but the firstk sentence, I loll'd.
Because it's in G major it's a blues.
Bob Dylan's knocking on heaven's doors is still a folk song and in G major.


I was just making it clear that it is in a major key, not mixolydian. TS is wondering why he's playing an F (not an F#) and it still is in G major. You can't argue that it is a progression in major (I IV V), so I don't see what it is so funny about it.
#16
Remind me not to be helpful to you in the future, Lampje.

D1sturbed, this is a reading comprehension problem on Lampje's part. He thinks you wrote something other than what you wrote, but his response to the error being pointed out was "stfu" - so ...

Probably not worth engaging with.
#17
Quote by HotspurJr
Remind me not to be helpful to you in the future, Lampje.

D1sturbed, this is a reading comprehension problem on Lampje's part. He thinks you wrote something other than what you wrote, but his response to the error being pointed out was "stfu" - so ...

Probably not worth engaging with.


The STFU was directed at himself I thought, you know as in "I'm wrong and sleepy so I'll be quiet and go to sleep".
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#18
Hotspur, you misunderstand him (just as he misunderstood you) - he realised that he was wrong, said that he thinks HE should STFU and go to bed, hes not being rude to you just saying that he's tired.

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