#1
I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to tube amps, so bear with me.

Everyone has told me that I need a tube screamer or some kind of boost. Well, I personally think my 6505+ has plenty of gain. In fact, I even have to lower it to about 5-6.

So what do I need a boost for? Thanks in advance!
#2
The only reason anyone would want to use a boost with a 6505 is if they feel that their sound is too loose and they want to tighten it up a bit.
#3
Your ears should give you the basic answer to this question. Can you get the "crunch" you're looking for, just by pumping up the pregain setting.
That said, using almost any distortion pedal, would allow you to get plenty of dirt, without driving the power amplifier into clipping. (In other words, you'd get a lot more dirt, but at way lower volumes).

So, do you think it's a good idea to use an overdrive pedal at reasonable volumes, or just beat up on the valves?

You could also use a plain preamp booster, (no distortion, just gain), on your rig. This approach is normally used to remedy low output pickups. Instead of hanging either high output pickups, or active pickups on the guitar, you put a simple preamp first in line on your pedal board.
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#4
I use my bad monkey ( tube overdrive ), it almost the same as a tube screamer, and i use it to tighten up the bass through my 6505 ( which is usefull, especially since i play an 8 string)
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#5
A tubescreamer type booster/od with a tone knob is pretty useful if you ever tune lower than Drop C or C standard, since things start to sound a little bit mushy/spongy on extreme tunings. Though I always keep my od/booster on regardless of my tuning/guitar/setting, I just like the tightness and punchiness it gives to my overall high gain tone. Pretty much 50 percent of modern metal guitarists use an od/booster in front, not because of the extra gain it gives, but the tightness and punchiness it adds to the overall tone.

On a second thought, on amplifiers with spongy pick attack response (like the rectos on tube rectifier mode), in my opinion it's a must to have an od/booster in front.
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Quote by Kuntekin
A tubescreamer type booster/od with a tone knob is pretty useful if you ever tune lower than Drop C or C standard, since things start to sound a little bit mushy/spongy on extreme tunings. Though I always keep my od/booster on regardless of my tuning/guitar/setting, I just like the tightness and punchiness it gives to my overall high gain tone. Pretty much 50 percent of modern metal guitarists use an od/booster in front, not because of the extra gain it gives, but the tightness and punchiness it adds to the overall tone.

On a second thought, on amplifiers with spongy pick attack response (like the rectos on tube rectifier mode), in my opinion it's a must to have an od/booster in front.


I'd say it's a lot more than 50%. Pretty much any band using a Recto and most using 5150s/6505s.
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#7
Cool story? If you get the tone you want without a boost, then what's the issue?

However, note that nothing about tone is as simple as just "adding" or "lowering" gain. A Tubescreamer doesn't just "add" more gain - it redefines the character of your gain. A 6505 with a TS in front is a whole different beast than just a 6505. If you haven't tried it yet, it doesn't hurt to try it. You can get TS pedals like the Bad Monkey or the TS7 for $25-30 on ebay.

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#8
^ +1

even if you think it already has enough gain it wouldn't hurt to try it, just in case you prefer it.
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