Do you ever wonder what it would be like to live in a poor or corrupt country?

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#1
I live in New Zealand. I'm lucky.

We are consistently rated among the highest in the Human Development Index, have a decent GDP per capita, and have the lowest rating of government corruption in the world. Literally all I have to complain about, is that instruments are very expensive here.

I've spent half of today just reading about things to do with this on the internet, and just wondering, imagine living in a place like Somalia? The government is corrupt and does nothing for the people, there is violence, and poverty everywhere. I'm just thinking about how different it would be there. It's actually crazy how different that sort of world is to ours (I'm assuming anyone reading this is lucky enough to be able to use a computer).

Does anyone else ever just think about that? Do you think that gap between countries will ever be closed?
#2
I think about it. I'd be pretty hopeless in that situation. Maybe if the recession gets bad enough, we might see the same thing in "developed" countries. I don't know what I'll do then.
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#4
It'll never get closed. Some countries will always be better off than others. I'm aware of what goes on as I collect a lot of press photography books and they have a fairly graphic window into the third world and the political and cultural differences present. A slightly macabre interest I know, but I want to know what goes on in the rest of the world. I'm just grateful that I have what I have.

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I think about it. I'd be pretty hopeless in that situation. Maybe if the recession gets bad enough, we might see the same thing in "developed" countries. I don't know what I'll do then.
Even in recession, we are still pretty well off, really.
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#5
There's always corruption.
The difference is, that in developed nations, you have to be pretty rich to be directly involved; whereas in the poorer nations, even the lower tiers of civil servants will expect backhanders to actually do anything.
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#6
Psht. like that'll ever happen.
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You spelled "Wales" wrong: the jokes are there for a reason.

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#12
Are you implying there are countries which are not corrupt?

And who decides on the rate of government corruption?
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Some countries will always be better off than others.


Na I completely disagree with this. Even the poorest nations (Africa, parts of Asia) are making rapid, unprecedented improvements each day. They are developing at an alarming rate. The term "3rd world country" will, within the foreseeable future, become antiquated. Countries will more or less homogenize in terms of development, opportunities, and governance.

I would even argue that the nation-state is going to decline. A new, more pragmatic and effective system of coexistence will emerge. With that, the term "international" will also become antiquated.
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Na I completely disagree with this. Even the poorest nations (Africa, parts of Asia) are making rapid, unprecedented improvements each day. They are developing at an alarming rate. The term "3rd world country" will, within the foreseeable future, become antiquated. Countries will more or less homogenize in terms of development, opportunities, and governance.

I would even argue that the nation-state is going to decline. A new, more pragmatic and effective system of coexistence will emerge. With that, the term "international" will also become antiquated.


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#17
[quote="'-[NiL"]-']Are you implying there are countries which are not corrupt?

And who decides on the rate of government corruption?

I see what you mean, but it's all relative. Compare the New Zealand government, with Somalia's. Just in terms of how much they try to provide for their population, how rampant bribery is etc. I'm not saying it's non existent here, but it's a pretty clear cut difference.
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I see what you mean, but it's all relative. Compare New Zealand government, with Somalia's. Just in terms of how much they try to provide for their population, how rampant bribery is etc. I'm not saying it's non existent here, but it's a pretty clear cut difference.

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#19
I already live in America.
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Na I completely disagree with this. Even the poorest nations (Africa, parts of Asia) are making rapid, unprecedented improvements each day. They are developing at an alarming rate. The term "3rd world country" will, within the foreseeable future, become antiquated. Countries will more or less homogenize in terms of development, opportunities, and governance.

I would even argue that the nation-state is going to decline. A new, more pragmatic and effective system of coexistence will emerge. With that, the term "international" will also become antiquated.

"3rd world country" is already antiquated.
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I have been to greece i know everything about poverty.

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And Greece is still not an underdeveloped country when compared to most African countries. Not even close.
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Na I completely disagree with this. Even the poorest nations (Africa, parts of Asia) are making rapid, unprecedented improvements each day. They are developing at an alarming rate. The term "3rd world country" will, within the foreseeable future, become antiquated. Countries will more or less homogenize in terms of development, opportunities, and governance.

I would even argue that the nation-state is going to decline. A new, more pragmatic and effective system of coexistence will emerge. With that, the term "international" will also become antiquated.

1 you are wrong. There will always be cores and peripheries because that is the most efficiënt set up.
2 there are Just a few countries that are developing in africa, though at extremely high rates. These growth rates are however caused by the high prices for resources and are not sustainable. Furthermore the allocation of this money is a point of concern. It all goes to the rich not to the poor.
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Furthermore the allocation of this money is a point of concern. It all goes to the rich not to the poor.


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#30
I want to live in a remote fishing village. Wake up early, take the canoes out to the ocean, catch fish for 2-3 hours, bring the haul back to town and shoot the shit or play an acoustic guitar while the women prepare it.

None of this 9-5 bullshit.
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I want to live in a remote fishing village. Wake up early, take the canoes out to the ocean, catch fish for 2-3 hours, bring the haul back to town and shoot the shit or play an acoustic guitar while the women prepare it.

None of this 9-5 bullshit.


In North Korea, you could do all of that, except in stead of fishing, you would starve to death.
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In North Korea, you could do all of that, except in stead of fishing, you would starve to death.


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In North Korea, you could do all of that, except in stead of fishing, you would starve to death.

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#34
Well considering the states owes everyone specially china up the ass, I guess were poor.
And ya...corruption that so doesnt happen here at all. nope.
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I just wrote down what one of my professors said this week. He had done some research about it. I don't really care who the money goes to but it is something to consider when you think Africa is finally "growing".
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#39
Yes, I do think about it. Being in some of the remote parts of Aghanistan/that part of the world makes me thankful I was born in a place that isn't shitty.
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