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Hello everyone,

This is my first time posting on these forums, and I bet there are about 23100 topics with pretty much the same question as I have. But still I'm going to shit this place up by creating a new thread :-)

I'm looking for a new amp for playing small giggs. I currently have a Blackstar HT-5 Combo, and when I cranck up the volume to max I can barely reach the drum sound. So It's time for a new amp. ( I play mostly rock and metal )

I really like to sound comming out of my blackstar so far, So I was looking towards buying the Studio-HT40. However I'm not sure if the sound is anywere near the HT-5. The price range I'm looking for is around €500-700.

I've also been looking into the Orange Dark terror and the Dual terror. Aswell as the ENGL gig master. However the prices are about the same as the Studio HT-40 but the watts are alot less. So I was wondering if it is worth going for an ENGL or Orange but then with less watt. Are these really much better then Blackstar amps? Or do you just pay for the name on the box?

If any of you guys have another amp in mind that might fit me, please say so and I will look them up!

Thanks in advance!
#2
If u're gonna gig it's probably gonna be mic'ed up so u should be fine. I only heard good things about the HT-5.
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blackstar HTs are hybrid, not all-valve. if you like the tone it's not a problem, but it's worth going in with your eyes open.

so's the engl, i think.

it's hard to beat the traynor ycv50b on thomann with your budget. obviously depends on the tones you want, but yeah.
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I dislike really static sounds in the distortion. Something the HT-5 does really well. The tone is awsome. When I compare them to other amps the tone is just amazing. So I'm not sure how the distortion on the traynor ycv50b sounds, can you give me a demo or discribe it? I'm looking around on Youtube but don't really find any good vids.

@Kozlic: You are right about the mic'ed up part. So you think it wouldn't be a problem with my amp at all?
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i could only point you to youtube or somewhere like that, i don't own one
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If you're playing rock and metal, and you appreciate the Blackstar HT line, you probably might appreciate the HT-40. It will handle higher gain tones better than the HT-5 combo, with it's higher headroom and 12 inch speaker.
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If you like the tone of the ht-5, but need it louder, it only makes sense to get something bigger in the same line.
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If you like the tone of the ht-5, but need it louder, it only makes sense to get something bigger in the same line.

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Even mic'd up a low watt amp is not going to sound great for metal. For metal, you want high watts for high headroom - (ie...most of your tone is coming from the preamp).

I think it would really help us if we new what kind of rock and metal you are talking about.

I'm not a fan necessarily of the Blackstar stuff but I guess I don't have a lot of experience with them either outside of the HT-5.

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+1 for the HT40, the other guitarist in one of my bands has that amp and it sounds sweet!....
just as another option though, if your playing metal, for similar money is the Peavey 6505+ combo.... uber gain, and 60w all tube so volume isn't a problem. i've used one for over a year gigging in all sorts of venues from small pubs to pro stages and it hasn't let me down at all! great amp!

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Thanks,

The sort of metal would be Thrash, stuff like Nuclear Assault, Kreator and so on....
How does the Peavey 6505+ hold up to that stuff compared to the Ht40 Syzee? Seeing you've got experiance with both...

@311ZOSOVHJH Now you know the sort of metal, do you've got anything in mind?
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Kreator used 6505's I think. That or a dual rectifier.

Something with EL34s is more focused.

You ever hear an Ampeg VH140/SS150? They are both awesome, the SS being a little thinner and more focused. Then there is the Crate GX130 as well. Very pummeling.
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It's a love/hate thing though. You're a metalhead, I'm sure it would be love.

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I, personally would recommend the peavey out of those two for the sound your after. The blackstar has a great rock tone, and does easily get pushed into thrash territory with a decent pedal infront but the peavey has metal tones on tap!
They are both voiced differently with the blackstar having el34's and the peavey having 6L6's But as I said, I think for your application, you wouldn't be dissapointed with the 6505+.

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@Kozlic: You are right about the mic'ed up part. So you think it wouldn't be a problem with my amp at all?


At a gig, you should be mic'd, unless the sound guy is an idiot. But for band practice, you still need to be able to keep up with your drummer.
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if its miced up, it really doesnt matter especially if its running through monitors. headroom is still needed though. but the PA will take care of volume and the monitors will take care of the stage volume.

it depends what you need to play. 30ish watts should get you wantever you need to gig with for rock. for high gain you might need more power.

a good cab can make a small amp sound big or a less powerful amp sound like a MONSTER. i plugged my combo into a marshall 4x12 for the first time and if i didnt turn around i felt as if i went from a pocket amp to a full stack.

but really, it all depends on you. if i had to pick an all around best gigging amp it would be some new lunchbox that came out recently or a more traditional fender hot rod combo. its general enough sounding to do anything, takes pedals well, affordable, common, and quality. its basically the common working mans most attainable gigging amp.

and the mofo is loud. we could never get my friends 40 watt hot rod above about 2 in the house (in a city) without neighbors complaining.
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Allright thanks for the advice people.

The way it's standing right now is that I'm going to buy a new amp.

It's either going to be the blackstar HT40 or the Peavey 6505+ 112
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If you insist on going new, either amp is a great choice. But if you can and/or are willing to go used, you can get a 5150 2x12 combo for the same price as a brand new 6505+ 112. Either way though, you won't be disappointed with either a 6505+ 112 or a Blackstar HT40. I personally love Blackstar's stuff and the HT5 is a great little amp. The only real thrash I play on my 5150 212 is old school Metallica and Megadeth but it does it no problem. The 6505+ 112 should be pretty similar in its ability to keep up. If you like the Blackstar tone though, you can't go wrong with a bigger, more powerful version of what you already have.
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