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My question to you guys out there today: "African American" - how do you feel about this term? Is it better than "black"? Is it even appropriate to assume all black in American see themselves as African or American (or both)?

Of course I've never used it, but that's because I'm from the UK so it would be a bit stupid to do so. However I would still never use an equivalent term such as "British African" or anything of the sort.

WHATCHU GUYS FEEL!?


(also feel free to start all your posts with "I'm not racist, but...", it makes things more edgy)
#3
It started as a way of saying that someone was black without hurting his/her feelings. That is the very essence of America.

But personally, I don't care. All men and women are equal, and society puts them in their place. Not something I agree with, since people should have the backbone to stay out of any zone they are put in by the media, by politicians or even by literature. True, many can stand for one the same as one can vouch for many, but I think that where there clearly was a distinction between groups of people, be it catholics or protestants, bikers or hippies, right now we live in an age where the distinction is still there, but barely noticeable since we put all blame on someones individuality, for that is the utopia shoved down our throats by the establishment.

Dang, totally off-topic there.
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"British African"

Would that not just be the term for people of British ancestry but born in Africa, like many white South Africans and Zimbabweans?
#5
I'm not racist, but I think it just sounds weird. Same thing when white Americans say that they're German because they had German grandparents or something like that. It gets even worse when people stop thinking completely and call all black people African-American, regardless of where they're from. I've heard (white) Americans call European black people African-American more than once.

On a somewhat related note, I like to tell Americans I'm mixed race because I'm part Finnish.
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#6
I don't like it, It's worse when they say they're Italian american or whatever and their great grandparents were from Italy
#7
What is your ethnicity?
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Asian/Pacific Islander
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White
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#10
I've not read up on this recently but I think African American or Black American was a term used by the descendants of slaves for themselves after the abolition to gain recognition as American citizens rather than second class people who you're not allowed to own anymore.
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#11
I don't really know. I don't think it's my place to categorize what other people should be called.
#13
In normal day-to-day speech I'd say black. If I was writing an article or something a bit more formal I'd write African American.
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#14
African American doesn't really apply to the person unless they were born in Africa and then became a citizen of the US.
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#15
It seems a little silly to me. It's like calling all white people European Americans. It's not true and it sounds dumb.
#16
Asian Americans hate the term African Americans.
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#17
I'm black, but i prefer the term "hispanic", when describing myself.
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White


LOL. As many applications I've filled out, I've never noticed how it says White. Why not American? Most plain Americans are white, we make up the majority of America. Personally, I can't call myself white because I've got probably 5 different ethnicities all in my blood, maybe more.

But if Black was an option instead of African-American, Al Sharpton would be all over it. It's a shame he calls himself Reverend. He's a preacher of lies, deceit and hate.
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#20
'African American' is still a useful term but not in describing individuals and their colour. The term refers to a people and culture. Most white people in Australia are 'Anglo-Saxon' but I just call them 'crackers' when describing their skin colour.
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LOL. As many applications I've filled out, I've never noticed how it says White. Why not American? Most plain Americans are white, we make up the majority of America. Personally, I can't call myself white because I've got probably 5 different ethnicities all in my blood, maybe more.

But if Black was an option instead of African-American, Al Sharpton would be all over it. It's a shame he calls himself Reverend. He's a preacher of lies, deceit and hate.



Eh more and more applications are starting to say African-American/Black, which is progress I guess.


To be honest though, I would like to eliminate the question from applications entirely. It's not allowed to ask for someone's sexuality, so why should race be any different?
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#22
African American is kind of a silly term. Especially when people use it synonymous with all Black people. I remember watching a Block Party music video and my friend said "wow, I didn't know their singer was African American" and I look at them and say, "he can't be African American, he's not American" and he responds "but that's his ethinicity."

It's also silly when non-Black immigrants from Africa say they're African American, but are apparently not allowed to call themselves African American because only Black people can use it.
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African American is kind of a silly term. Especially when people use it synonymous with all Black people. I remember watching a Block Party music video and my friend said "wow, I didn't know their singer was African American" and I look at them and say, "he can't be African American, he's not American" and he responds "but that's his ethinicity."

It's also silly when non-Black immigrants from Africa say they're African American, but are apparently not allowed to call themselves African American because only Black people can use it.


I actually wish I was a white African so I could come to America and refer to myself as an African American.
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I'm not racist, but I think it just sounds weird. Same thing when white Americans say that they're German because they had German grandparents or something like that.



I have never seen a problem with this at all. It stems from the fact that America is a very very young country, and since its birth has had a connotation of being a "melting pot" in which cultures from around the world can settle down to create a new life. I see it as being very similar to other titles. Take, for example, a ghost-pirate (bare with me here). A ghost-pirate is a pirate first and foremost, that happened to become a ghost at some point (as opposed to a pirate-ghost which was a ghost that later in its ghost-life decided to become a pirate). The general term ______-American works in the same regard. It is a title used to recognize where a person draws their lineage while still acknowledging that they're an American citizen -- which was quite important in the early immigrant-heavy portions of American history. It just so happens that the trend continued and it is still being used in modern times.

All of my grandparents were born in the US (though each of their parents were immigrants from Scandinavian countries), and I still consider myself to be Scandinavian in ancestry. What's so heinous about that? What would you call the child of a Swedish couple that had moved to Mozambique? How about that child's kids? When do you make the distinction between where one draws their linage and where one lives?

By the way, this whole thing is not helped in the least bit by the trite "hurr durr, America has no culture of its own, hurr" mentality of many young folks.
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#27
I think Black or Coloured are much better terms. Although coloured would have too much in it. Chinese and South-Americans are coloured too. So...
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I think Black or Coloured are much better terms. Although coloured would have too much in it. Chinese and South-Americans are coloured too. So...



Colored is almost as bad as negro/nigger, bro. If you ever come to America, do not call a black person 'colored'.
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Colored is almost as bad as negro/nigger, bro. If you ever come to America, do not call a black person 'colored'.


I wouldn't, it would be coloured. >.> Nah ok. I have heard this multiple times on UG, but I still don't know why it is so offensive. Whites are white, coloured people are coloured. It's an objective fact. I mean nothing racist with it.
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To be honest though, I would like to eliminate the question from applications entirely. It's not allowed to ask for someone's sexuality, so why should race be any different?



They're not allowed to base their job selection on gender, race, age, etc. These questions are purely for informative purposes, and you're more than free to leave them blank.
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I wouldn't, it would be coloured. >.> Nah ok. I have heard this multiple times on UG, but I still don't know why it is so offensive. Whites are white, coloured people are coloured. It's an objective fact. I mean nothing racist with it.



Had no idea you were this fucking stupid.


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I wouldn't, it would be coloured. >.> Nah ok. I have heard this multiple times on UG, but I still don't know why it is so offensive. Whites are white, coloured people are coloured. It's an objective fact. I mean nothing racist with it.



There are many more colors than black, dude. By calling black people "colored" you're making it seem like black folks are the only ones that need to be specified or excluded, and all other colors (caucasian, hispanic, asian, etc.) can safely be lumped into one cozy category.
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#33
'Coloured' is bad because it implies white people are the ethnic baseline or predominant race and anything other is a modification or mutation from that baseline.

Don't get many black people in the netherlands huh?
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I wouldn't, it would be coloured. >.> Nah ok. I have heard this multiple times on UG, but I still don't know why it is so offensive. Whites are white, coloured people are coloured. It's an objective fact. I mean nothing racist with it.



also, white people are more pink than white, so they'd be 'coloured' too.

anyway, official uk census uses 'black british' with a sub category of either 'african', 'caribbean' or 'other' . In the US it seems like more people would fit in the 'caribbean' sub category, especially with the many white ancestors people have.

I think the whole issue is pointless anyway as identifying a persons ethnicity for any other reason than basic demographics is stupid anyway.
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There are many more colors than black, dude. By calling black people "colored" you're making it seem like black folks are the only ones that need to be specified or excluded, and all other colors (caucasian, hispanic, asian, etc.) can safely be lumped into one cozy category.


Technically black is not a color (even though there aren't any black people with black skin), but yes. It's essentially spoken segregation.
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#36
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^ white people are more pink than white, so they'd be 'coloured' too.


I dunno, me and one of my little brothers are like the pastiest people ever.
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I actually wish I was a white African so I could come to America and refer to myself as an African American.


I've seen it happen before. I have a friend born and raised in South Africa and she goes around calling herself an African American, but she's blonde and has blue eyes.
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In the US it seems like more people would fit in the 'caribbean' sub category, especially with the many white ancestors people have.


No, not really. Excluding places like Florida (which understandably have a large Caribbean population), there are significantly fewer black people of Caribbean descent than those of African descent in the US. I think it's a combination of the relatively tiny population size of the Caribbean, and the fact that they are much more likely to be content with their living situation than the bulk of African immigrants.
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I've seen it happen before. I have a friend born and raised in South Africa and she goes around calling herself an African American, but she's blonde and has blue eyes.


That's amazing. She probably gets loads of " " looks when she does it too.
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That's amazing. She probably gets loads of " " looks when she does it too.


Some people actually have a brain and understand when she responds that she's from South Africa, but some Black people rage at her saying that only Black people are African American. It's also funny seeing them rage when an Arabic person who's from a north African country like Algeria saying that they're African American.
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