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#1
I have a good friend in our band he's our rythm guitarist/singer. Real cool guy, funny, energetic, however his singing is atrocious, along with his lyrics... and he is not a real good guitarist. He tends to play the electric like an acoustic, and plays all strings when he strums and can't mute. Dreadful. Anyway, my drummer and I are fed up with it. Our Lead guitarist is even closer to him than my drummer and me. So we know he won't have the backbone to admit we're right. How can we get this guy out. He is holding us back tremedously.
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#2
"I'm kicking you out of the band because I don't care about having a good time anymore and the band is more important than our friendship"
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#3
Show him this thread, just "accidentally" post it on his facebook page or something :P
#4
In this case, it's strictly business. Just give it to him straight. That's how it has to be.
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#5
Why not persuade him to get guitar lessons?

Learn to sing yourself? Or write your own lyrics?


You know, things that won't kill your friendship with this guy and make you band better
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#7
I think what I'm most worried about is our lead guitarist getting mad at me and my drummer for this conclusion, and leaving the band with him because they are so close as friends.
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#9
All of you should continually make sexual advances towards him. He'll be so freaked out that he'll leave of his own free will.
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#12
Have a new try with him...Tell him to improve his guitar skills, improve his voice. Maybe motivation is problem, talk with him. With talking you can resolve any problem, in the end if you can't agree or it's seems, that he is ruing your band, tell him it is time to move on.
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#13
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Why not persuade him to get guitar lessons?

Learn to sing yourself? Or write your own lyrics?


You know, things that won't kill your friendship with this guy and make you band better



I am the other singer. We both write lyrics and songs. I don't want to sound like I have a big ego, but I know my lyrics and songs are better than his. I work on mine harder spending A LOT of time figuring flow, timing melody, and other important aspects. He thinks that his stuff is perfect, but it is NOT.

He insists on singing and he even knows I'm the better singer. I believe its all about control.
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#14
I talked to him about his issues before. However, our lead says "he's fine".. yet again I think he has no backbone to admit his good friend SUCKS....
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#15
I say you start a new band with no friends, so the business aspect don't get in the way.
#16
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What if he just accepts? Then he'll never leave.

Then they can convince him to leave to focus his time on their new sex gang.
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#18
Give him an acoustic or something?
or maybe you could write songs together then you can show him things like song structure and melody.

Regarding his strumming you could always teach him a few things; but it's pretty much your fault if you started a band with a novice.
#19
Talk to him about it, let him know exactly why he can't do it. Offer to find a temporary replacement and encourage him to get better. As soon as he's up to par and still interested, let him back in. If not, make him your merch guy.
#20
Just it explain it to him like you've explained it to us. Make sure you let him know that it's nothing personal, and that he needs to develop his skills or find people at his level of skill to play with. If he's hurt, he'll get over it in time.
#21
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but it's pretty much your fault if you started a band with a novice.



agreed
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#22
Whatever you do, don't let it come out of the blue. How often do you guys give him pointers on his playing? Because if you've never mentioned anything like that before he's gonna make a fuss about you backstabbing him. Make sure he knows what's coming.

And when criticising, be constructive.
#23
To remain free of confrontation, start a second band with your friend and remain in the old one. Problem solved. Derp.
#24
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All of you should continually make sexual advances towards him. He'll be so freaked out that he'll leave of his own free will.

What if doesn't? huh? Then what?

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#25
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What if doesn't? huh? Then what?

WHAT IF HE SAYS YES

My previous post covers that eventuality.

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#27
I'm going to have to agree with Four Tet's advice: don't start bands with novices. It'll make a great group of musicians into a poor-sounding band.

Encourage him to seek improvement in his vocal and guitar skills, if not for the band, then for himself for his future music career.

Consider the following: the best way to improve both of these is by actually playing in a band. Since you actually maximize the experiences you need to be a decent musician, letting him stay might help him find his calling as a musician.

Ask who you want to help, your band or your friend.
#29
Make this subtle hint next time you see him: If he stands next to an open door in band practice, raise your leg up and push him out with your foot. Be gentle though, you don't want to hurt his feelings.


Then slam the door.


Totally subtle, he'll understand what you mean and you can all meet up for a drink later as bffs.
#31
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What if he just accepts? Then he'll never leave.


So that's like having a band and having free anal sex. TS can't say no to that.
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#33
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How terrible are you at guitar? Wanna join my band?


Wait.. will I be on the receiving end or do I get to give you anal?


You mean the first right?
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#35
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Dude what the hell man I just need a second guitarist


Oh...

I can't play the guitar I'm sorry. I can blow a whistle though.
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#37
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Yeah I'll bet you can.
It really is a simple instrument.
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#38
Stab him in the shoulder. That'll learn 'em.


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