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#1
Hey guys,

I just bought a Vox AC4TV. I thought it would be cool to have a tube amp at low volume. I kept seeing demos on YouTube of people able to get the tube crunch at low volume with the 1/4W selector.

But mine is really super loud !!!

Even on 1/4W I have to roll the volume nearly all the way down to avoid ear damage when practicing. I can't get any tube overdrive at low volume...

Wasn't that the whole point of the WATT Selector ???

Now all I get is that shitty tone like I'm playing through a cheap bass amp!
#3
I've heard only great reviews on the AC4TV. It has a really solid reputation, so I'm assuming my shitty tone comes from the stock pups from my MIM Standard Strat ?

I mean, I get a better tone from my cheap Warwick bass amp... What's the deal??
#5
I'm not, I'm only using a Jekyll & Hyde by Visual Sound.

But I don't understand... if I want to get a tube crunch tone on 1/4W I can't stay in front of it or my ears will burst! It's insane loud, even louder than my Blues Jr that I had before!
#6
........wut?

Sorry, I meant to say LOLwut???

the pups in your mexi strat should be fine...

Earplugs? Get used to it?? I'm not sure I understand really. Are you saying it's too loud to stand it, or too loud for an apartment/bedroom, etc?
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#7
are you sure you didnt get ripped off and they gave you a ac30 instead?
casue ive played an ac4...at 1/4 watts it wasnt gving me much ear damage (although i was surprized at how loud it got)
#9
Past 30% volume on 1/4W is unbearable. I can't play that loud next to it. How am I supposed to get tube overdrive ?

On 4W setting shit gets REAL and is as loud as my Blues Jr on jamming volume. I'm not kidding, what is with this amp ???
#10
You are on crack of you think it's a loud amp
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#11
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Last edited by jpatan at Apr 13, 2012,
#13
hahaha! Okay sure I may be exagerating a bit, but really. Kind of a let down. I though the 1/4W would let me crank the tubes and still have a low volume
#14
It should. the 1/4 watt mode on that amp is super quite.

It's not whisper quiet.

You need like 1/10 of a watt for that.
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#15
But on 1/4 with the volume up it's really loud! unusable for bedroom practice. If I roll down the volume knob on the guitar then I lose the tube crunch
#16
Yeah it's like a loud tv.

way louder then you'd be able to watch tv in the middle of the night.

that's about how loud it is.
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#18
Stick it in your dresser or closet or something.
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#20
grow some balls
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#21
Even super low wattage tube amps won't play at the kind of whisper quiet levels you would get out of a SS amp. Although, if you consider a 1/3rd of a 1/4W amp unbearable, I would certainly question the (over)sensitivity of your ears. I used to run a 50W valve head into a 4x12 cab full blast, volume literally up to 10, that is what I would define as 'loud'.
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#22
thats besides the point. if you want a tube amp at like 1/4 watt all the time, you literally have no clean tone. i mean that should be quiet enough.

last time i played a vox lil night train which i think is 2 watts and less, it was amazing. it was perfect to put the volume know on 10 and dig to get some sexy grit, and bumb down to i think 1.2 watt and get some great overdrive tones.

but dont think that watage = volume. you can crank your ac4 and still get the cops called on you. in fact, you could probably try to gig with it.

is it loud enough to be heard over a drummer? perhaps yes. however, its so small your going to be maxing it out, have no headroom, and NO presense and depth, or bass. you wont cutt through the mix at all, you would just be noise filling the background.

that is why people need bigger amps. there is a certain umph that you get and a presense that literally seems to climb up and over the other instruments. also, lots of big speakers works wonders.
#23
You just think its loud, but youll get used to it....or go to GC and play an AC15. I think I actually hurt my ears.
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#24
Back when I had my triple rectifier I rolled the volume to the stop once and played for about a minute. I think I may have done permanent hearing damage Now THAT is loud. 150w of eardrum rupturing awesome. You could probably hear it about 3 blocks away.

Volume is something you'll just have to get used to if you like playing guitar through tube amps. They all have a certain sweet spot where they just start sounding great, and it's usually loud.
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#26
yeah they get loud.. my mate had one.

if you got the head and cab, throw a blanket over the cab, but not the head.
if its a combo, stick speakers in front of it.
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#27
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yeah they get loud.. my mate had one.

if you got the head and cab, throw a blanket over the cab, but not the head.
if its a combo, stick speakers in front of it.

Stick speakers in front of it?

I personally didn't think the AC4 was that loud when I played it but I could see how someone would. People sometimes think that with a super low watt amp they crank it up and it will sound CD quality at speaking volumes. I have a 1 watt Blackheart Killer Ant. Through my 212 cab it can get loud'ish
#28
Yeah, loud is subjective. Stick that thing next to a drum kit, then tell me it's loud. I had to turn my mark IV up to about 4-5 on the master to keep up with the drummer I used to jam with. Halfway up the dial on that amp is incredibly loud. Like, you can hear it down the street loud... ears ringing for a day or two loud.
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#29
Now how could one get an awesome tube tone at speaking volume ?

I'm talking about a really great tone like a fantastic tube amp.
#30
umm... maybe a 0.1w amp??

The problem with an amp that quiet is that your speaker really isn't moving much air. It's going to sound kinda thin.
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Last edited by jpatan at Apr 14, 2012,
#31
wattage does not equal volume! they are separate measurements
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#32
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Now how could one get an awesome tube tone at speaking volume ?

I'm talking about a really great tone like a fantastic tube amp.

you can't
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#33
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are you sure you didnt get ripped off and they gave you a ac30 instead?
casue ive played an ac4...at 1/4 watts it wasnt gving me much ear damage (although i was surprized at how loud it got)


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#34
AC4 is too loud, AC15 hurt another's ears. Wtf is wrong with you pussies??
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#35
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right because the Snax FX sounds exactly like a real tube amp
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#36
your wattage selector has to be broken.

i hope.
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#37
I used to use a pillow in front of it. Get a bigger room, it helps a lot. 1/4 watt is still loud.

At first I thought you were a troll......still not sure.....
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#38
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right because the Snax FX sounds exactly like a real tube amp

Comes pretty close to the real deal resident tube snob Matrix Claw sold off his Diezel for one, and Reincaster from the DSP thread pushed off his Road King MK1 for an 11R.....
#39
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Comes pretty close to the real deal resident tube snob Matrix Claw sold off his Diezel for one, and Reincaster from the DSP thread pushed off his Road King MK1 for an 11R.....

Colin and Matt both sold theirs off pretty quick.

They aren't for everybody, and they aren't the end all that some people think they are.
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#40
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Comes pretty close to the real deal resident tube snob Matrix Claw sold off his Diezel for one, and Reincaster from the DSP thread pushed off his Road King MK1 for an 11R.....

I wouldn't call Matrix Claw a tube snob. He's had good things to say about the Ampeg VH140C, Pod Farm, Peavey Vypyrs, etc etc.

Like Greg said - everyone has different needs and applications. People sometimes use what suits them best for the moment or application.
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