#1
I play a dean vendetta and i put an emg 85 in the bridge, and i use a peavey triple x head with an ibanez tone blaster cab that has 2 stock speakers and 2 celestion hot 100s. I am not getting the deep crunchy sound like MOTIONLESS IN WHITE, ATTACK ATTACK, or EMMURE. I tune down to drop b, could using a eq pedal help me get that sound?
#2
In production those bands typically layer in kick drum beats with the bass behind the gtrs to get that massive attack and heavy sound, and the guitars are doubled or tripled and panned hard left and right. You won't get the recorded sound playing a single gtr.
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Quote by mitch28152
...ibanez tone blaster...
There's your answer. Your cab is garbage.

Grab yourself something with V30's; your sound will improve by miles.
#4
For a more massive sound, use a Y splitter and send half of the signal to another amp. I do this and it sounds positively huge. Also, I think the EMG 81 would've been a better choice since the magnet is ceramic. You could try an Ibanez TS9 too. Many metal bands use that to improve midrange and tightness.
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#5
What is your EQ setting? The XXX is very sensitive to EQ, and it has an active EQ, so it doesn't react like you'd typically expect.

Other than that, V30's are magic.

Also note that the bands you listed use 6505's, which are very dark and low mid heavy amps, while the XXX is very bright and has a lot of highs and upper mids. Totally different sounds there.
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What is your EQ setting? The XXX is very sensitive to EQ, and it has an active EQ, so it doesn't react like you'd typically expect.

Other than that, V30's are magic.

Also note that the bands you listed use 6505's, which are very dark and low mid heavy amps, while the XXX is very bright and has a lot of highs and upper mids. Totally different sounds there.



I crank the low and high but put the mid half way, I was just wondering if the eq could help get a little thicker of a sound.
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Quote by mitch28152
I crank the low and high but put the mid half way, I was just wondering if the eq could help get a little thicker of a sound.


i'd say work with your amps eq before bothering with a pedal, xxx have very sensitive and intricate eq and spend some time with it, you'd be surprised what you could get. start with everything at noon, and tweak it, paying close attention to how the knobs work with each other. dont use too much low and high because they'll make your sound too muddy and piercing. and as someone else said, that chunk your looking for wont come from the guitar alone, but get a good sound from the guitar that can have the bass and the kick added to it, that'll give you the chunk. also, use as little gain as possible. a very common mistake is having absurd amounts of gain, but it will hurt your sound more than anything else
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Quote by mitch28152
I crank the low and high but put the mid half way, I was just wondering if the eq could help get a little thicker of a sound.


Even though it seems counterintuitive, the secret to getting a heavy sound is cutting bass. While bass can add presences, it also adds flabbiness and takes away from your attack.

Try putting your bass at 9-10 o'clock, mids at 12-1 o'clock, and highs to taste (enough to get the amount of definition you want in your tone). That's usually a surefire way to get a modern tone.

Are you using a tubescreamer type pedal in front? That will make a huge difference.
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