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#1
*edit; This post is pretty innacurate for how things have turned out. If you are new to this game and interested in how things work, read further into the thread


So the Metal forum radio is kicking the bucket, something that I welcome since its zombified body shambled for far too long before turning to dust. I have wandered back here to UG with the release of Imperator, before then I had not been banging my head for some time and instead listened to Der Bohren Un Der Club of Gore and a few others on infinite repeat.

So here I am, back where I am loved. Unfortunately there is not much in terms of discussion and even worst yet, I see less and less of my favorite regulars.

So here is my proposal.

Your Move - A Game to Waste Internet Time

I will keep this brief because I am impatient.

Your Move is a game we can play, a game we can play on the internet. Here's a rough idea of how it works;

Your Move is played by two users and is a contest between the two that involves trying to win the votes of the other forumers through music

A theme or genre will be chosen by a user, usually the winner of the last contest. Examples could be anything from mid-paced Death Metal, foresty Black Metal, etc or for the more fanciful something like Ritual Procession, Road Warrior wastelands, medieval warfare or what ever.

The two current players then decide what album they will put up for delegation. They want to try and match the theme or genre as much as possible, ideally choosing an album whose sound aesthetically matches the chosen theme/genre.

The involved forumers then listen to the chosen albums. Now here is where I'm going to be a real ball buster;
You have to LISTEN to the album and I mean LISTEN. I do not want this to be like the "What are You Listening too" thread where you go to YouTube and check out the first 30 seconds then proceed to comeback with a four word response. That is shit and you know it.
You have to PROVE that you listened to it with an adequate "review" of the album. I'm not asking for a thesis here, but something that shows you gave the album your undivided attention and absorbed the music and applied a level of criticism to it befitting of a critic.
If you are not a REGULAR of the UG Metal forum, you are not allowed to play. Sorry.

After an undetermined amount of time, the forumers involved will put up their votes for the winning album. The votes are tallied and the winning album is decided. The player who put up the winning album then decides what Theme/Genre will be played next and a new challenger will then face the champ.

I think this can be fun and won't lose energy as fast as Metal Forum Radio does. There are still some things that need to be worked out obviously like how long the listening/voting process will take etc, but I find this game to be simple yet elegant and can have some interesting conversations attached.

Ultimately it's up to you guys and if Strangles deems us worthy mayhaps we can get this going.
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but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
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Last edited by VampireGoldfish at Jul 16, 2012,
#2
I approve of this completely.

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#4
As flaky as I am around here, I approve of this.
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#5
I like the idea, but one thing I'm not clear on:

The two people bringing forth the two albums will write about them, and then other users will cast their vote?
#6
It sounds more like everyone who gets to vote has to do a review of the albums chosen in order to cast their votes.
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#7
Quote by technicolour
I like the idea, but one thing I'm not clear on:

The two people bringing forth the two albums will write about them, and then other users will cast their vote?


The two players only need to bring the music.

The others will cast their votes by writing their reviews.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#9
Quote by AnnihiSlateR
Assuming the finer details can be worked out, I'm up for it.


The great thing about it is there are hardly any finer details. Outside of scheduling such as how long the listening process is there's nothing else to work out as far as I can tell.

I will choose the first genre/theme, two players are chosen and we go from there. The rest plays itself out.

As for how long the listening/voting process is, I'd say we try and keep it short enough as to not lose the attention span of users and long enough so everyone gets a chance at having input. I'd say no more then two days would do it.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#10
that sounds like a good time length for me. If you miss one you can always catch the next anyways.
#11
so how do we decide who gets to choose what albums, and for voting, do we have to submit a review for each album in order for our vote to count? who decides that a persons reviews, and therefore their vote, is valid or not?
#12
Quote by dillonrips7
so how do we decide who gets to choose what albums,


We will start with two random players. Doesn't really matter who. We will make a waiting list of players who want to participate, they will jump in as the challenger when their turn arrives and face the current champ.

Quote by dillonrips7
and for voting, do we have to submit a review for each album in order for our vote to count?


Yes. Like I said I'm not asking for a thesis, just something of substance.

Quote by dillonrips7
who decides that a persons reviews, and therefore their vote, is valid or not?


I do. Or the community does. What ever.

Trust me, I don't see myself declining anything in the future. I just want to stress that substance is required in the voting process.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#15
I am in agreements, this is cool... I might say that a whole album seems like a bit of a stretch, but an individual song exemplifying it's genre may be a more realistic approach. I dunno, just an idea- take it or leave it... but most people probably won't find the time to listen to a whole album every couple of days, especially when to present your review, you'll have to compare the other person's album of choice in order to make a fair judgement on what the better performance is. So unless you've heard at least one of the albums, we'll all end up having to try to listen two albums every couple of days.

PLUS! A few of us can be quite lengthy at times... reviewing whole albums in "general detail" will undoubtedly degrade into scrutinizing detail. Keeping it to one song, or hell, even a group of 3 will ensure that each review is of reasonable length.
#16
No, albums would defintely make for a more enjoyable contest. To find a song that matches a certain theme is simple, but to find (and agree upon) an album which embodies a fairly specific theme as a whole would be much more interesting.
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#17
If someone nominates an album that isn't easily available to listen to, they should be held responsible for making it available.

Also, this rule:

If you are not a REGULAR of the UG Metal forum, you are not allowed to play. Sorry.

Should be adjusted a bit. For example, a newbie can't compete directly, but can still put up reviews for the contest, and if they put up quality reviews, they can earn a spot in the competition. Obviously, if their reviews are garbage, their votes won't be counted.
#18
Quote by Scourge441

Should be adjusted a bit. For example, a newbie can't compete directly, but can still put up reviews for the contest, and if they put up quality reviews, they can earn a spot in the competition. Obviously, if their reviews are garbage, their votes won't be counted.


I love this idea.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#19
Are any albums off-limits, such as long-proven classics of the genre that might be automatic winners? I'm talking stuff like Altars of Madness. I don't really see a problem with anything goes, but maybe someone else here will have a dissenting opinion.
Last edited by P1ayingW1thF1re at Jun 17, 2012,
#20
Well, it would still be interesting to see what makes a classic good when compared to a mid-tier album
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#21
Quote by P1ayingW1thF1re
Are any albums off-limits, such as long-proven classics of the genre that might be automatic winners? I'm talking stuff like Altars of Madness. I don't really see a problem with anything goes, but maybe someone else here will have a dissenting opinion.

True. Might have to keep it to more obscure material.

But, as a whole I love this idea. Sounds fun as hell.
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#22
Quote by P1ayingW1thF1re
Are any albums off-limits, such as long-proven classics of the genre that might be automatic winners? I'm talking stuff like Altars of Madness. I don't really see a problem with anything goes, but maybe someone else here will have a dissenting opinion.


Classics are ok, what I would rather avoid is people choosing "Death Metal" Or "Black Metal" as the theme/genre.

*adjective* genre is alright, preferably an aesthetically interesting adjective.

Foresty Black Metal
Mid-paced Death Metal

As examples for the *adjective* genre topic.

The *theme* topic is a little different

Medieval warfare
Road Warrior Wasteland
Ritual Procession

I would prefer more of the *theme * topic.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#23
Will ep's , split's and demo's be accepted?
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#24
Yes, no problem with those.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#25
I won't have time to mod this in detail during the week as I'm pretty up the walls, but I see absolutely no problem with it at all, it sounds like a killer idea.
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0-0-0-13-0-0-0-0-13 or something like that alalalala but It;s so heavy and off time and awesome and you could not f**k anyone to it.


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#26
Strangles what's more important, what ever it is you do on the week or your internet job?
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#27
I...I guess you're right. Good thing this moderator job pays serious money, did you know we can make up to 3 grand a year? You guys mightn't appreciate that, but the UG groupies certainly do...
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I want to try that while playing the opening riff to "Tempting Time".

0-0-0-13-0-0-0-0-13 or something like that alalalala but It;s so heavy and off time and awesome and you could not f**k anyone to it.


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#28
What's funny is that during the whole of my 12-month service I earn a total of 2593,20€. Better to be a UG mod than a soldier!


As for this entity conjured up by VG, I wholeheartedly approve.
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I... I should return to Arkham.


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#30
Either tomorrow morning or in the evening I will start taking volunteers to be put in the pool of players. Once that is decided I will lay out the final details then reveal our first theme within then next day or two.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#31
Quote by Kepulix
What's funny is that during the whole of my 12-month service I earn a total of 2593,20€. Better to be a UG mod than a soldier!


As for this entity conjured up by VG, I wholeheartedly approve.


Yeah but Mod's won't get to shoot people with anything other than witty posts and bans.Your K/D ratio better be at least 2/1 man.
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Acid probably makes you feel less like a hedonistic raver piece of trash, too.

#32
Question, are we allowed to participate in the reviewing process without intending, at least for the moment to be involved in selecting the albums themselves? I'm not really confident about being able to pick decent albums outside of heavy/power/thrash metal.
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#33
I'm a bit drunk and very tired so I'm not quite getting it. I'll try to write a summary to understand it.

-You pick an adjective and a genre, or a specific theme not defined by genre.
-You pick two members.
-Said members select albums for people to review
-Members write review on whichever album they think fits the theme best.
-The person who writes the best review picks the next theme and the next two competitors.

Pretty much right?
#35
Quote by Nietsche
Question, are we allowed to participate in the reviewing process without intending, at least for the moment to be involved in selecting the albums themselves? I'm not really confident about being able to pick decent albums outside of heavy/power/thrash metal.


It is perfectly fine to just cast your vote and review with no intention of being a player.


Quote by Butt Rayge
I'm a bit drunk and very tired so I'm not quite getting it. I'll try to write a summary to understand it.

-You pick an adjective and a genre, or a specific theme not defined by genre.
-You pick two members.
-Said members select albums for people to review
-Members write review on whichever album they think fits the theme best.
-The person who writes the best review picks the next theme and the next two competitors.

Pretty much right?


No, not really.

1. Theme is picked by the champ (The winner of the last VS)
2. Next player from pool of players is matched up against champ
3. Albums are selected individually by players
4. Voters listen to each album and cast their vote via review.
5. Votes are tallied, a winner is decided
6. Winning player then moves on, is presented with a new challenger from pool of players, and he picks a new theme.

Rinse wash repeat.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#36
Anyways, if you would like to participate as a player, please make a post with

#aNewChallengerApproaches

in it.

Note that a player will be involved in matches, you do not need to sign up to cast your vote via review, you only need to show up and listen.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#39
#aNewChallengerApproaches
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"I'm so happy to love metal and stuff"

"I AM metal"